Organ Donation Opt-Out

Meatball said:
I'm on the organ donor list as I chose to be after a long stay in hospital with meningitis. I was a lucky one and pulled through. I hated the thought of my body going to waste at 18. Opt-out system is a good idea IMO :).
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Good on you,

I've been on the donor list because I won't need them when I'm dead - no reason to let others die after I'm gone.

Besides, it's not like other donations which require effort - really no excuse, they only bother you when your dead.
 
dfarrall said:
For now its giving your organs once your dead, however in say a hundred years it may well turn into a value of who's life is more important, somebody who is in life support or somebody who is perfectly well apart from the need of an organ.

It's headed in a natural selection sort of way.

Personally i'd like to keep my body to myself for now, maybe ill change my mind when i age a little but who knows.
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so essentially your opinions on the matter boil down to a series of 'what ifs' all of them irrelevant when your dead anyway. doesnt overly make sense to me.

perhaps the issue here is that some people are just afraid of death and dont want to accept that when your gone, your gone and your be long forgotten in over 100 years.
 
It should be opt IN

No one should make assumptions about what people wish to happen to there mortal remains.

Montiored by a GP on a regular basis as someone suggested sounds a much better idea
 
Just thinking idly... If it was opt out and there was suddenly a huge surplus of organs as a result, I wonder if the government of the day would be tempted to try their luck at selling them on abroad or to highest bidders in order to help fund the health system. It sounds crazy but it'd not surprise me one bit.
 
Alphane said:
It should be opt IN

No one should make assumptions about what people wish to happen to there mortal remains.

Montiored by a GP on a regular basis as someone suggested sounds a much better idea
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Despite the fact that a high percentage of people not currently on the list say they would consent to donating their organs but just haven't bothered getting around to it and they aren't making assumptions about people's wishes but if somebody really didn't want their organs donated they will quite obviously opt out whereas someone who's happy enough to donate but just can't quite be bothered signing up won't opt in.
 
Should be opt-in and this is coming from someone who works in the field in a medical capacity. But the notion that medics won't do their best is just plain silly. You don't just use any old organ - very specific criteria need to be met i.e brain death without infection or damage etc. If you really want to increase organ donation then you need to stop people using seatbelts as that was when the donation rate went down due to the reduction in healthy people passing braindead criteria. Contrast this with Spain which has a healthy organ donation program where organs mostly come from RTA victims. It is not just organs though it's donations from ethnic groups (eg Asian) who use a large number of organs (eg renal failure from diabetes) but don't in the main don't contribute to the donor pool. Just my thoughts. It may be better to not get people into the state where they need donation before introducing such measures that a lot of medical professionals (who participate in medicine using donation) really do not agree with - for reasons of informed consent etc. Then you have the issue where transplantation is sold as the end goal of someones treatment without addressing the rise of disease such as PTLD, non-compliance issue in teenagers who are rushed into transplantation before hitting the magical age of 18 where they suddenly moved down the list priority wise etc. (please excuse the phone post format)
 
Frankly it should be mandatory for anyone who wishes to be considered for an organ transplant. I don't see how you could be morally eligible for an organ transplant if you're not willing to donate your own upon your death.
 
Windle said:
Despite the fact that a high percentage of people not currently on the list say they would consent to donating their organs but just haven't bothered getting around to it and they aren't making assumptions about people's wishes but if somebody really didn't want their organs donated they will quite obviously opt out whereas someone who's happy enough to donate but just can't quite be bothered signing up won't opt in.
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I think you missed half the post

The GP's should be asking everyone if they would like to consent, the default though should be 'no consent was given'.
 
shoes said:
Frankly it should be mandatory for anyone who wishes to be considered for an organ transplant. I don't see how you could be morally eligible for an organ transplant if you're not willing to donate your own upon your death.
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Whilst that seems straightforward. Would you then say people should be denied care if they pay no tax and therefore contribute? Would you say a child should receive a transplant if they themselves are unable to give consent for donation? What about people who do not opt out because they presume life won't deal them bad cards etc and have never had the opportunity to give informed consent for donation. What happens if a relative says that someone changed their mind in the last moment but where unable to verbalise their wishes etc - "they never thought of it but now the thought of what would happen after death horrified them they just never got the chance to tell you". And there are plenty more problems with this apparently logical statement. Hence why an awful lot of medical people don't want an opt-out system.
 
MrMoonX said:
this always opt in
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I don't agree, I don't see any problem with opt-out. For anyone who is opposed to donation they still have the option to say no.

So currently if someone dies and they are not a registered donor, don't the doctors ask the relatives about organ donation there and then? This must be a traumatic experience for the relatives and not an easy thing to think about at that time.

So at least an automatic opt-in would reduce this trauma to the recently bereaved, without removing any rights of the individual to not be a donor.
 
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Freakbro said:
I don't agree, I don't see any problem with opt-out. For anyone who is opposed to donation they still have the option to say no.

So currently if someone dies and they are not a registered donor, don't the doctors ask the relatives about organ donation there and then? This must be a traumatic experience for the relatives and not an easy thing to think about at that time.

So at least an automatic opt-in would reduce this trauma to the recently bereaved.
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As I understand it, even if someone has opted in the parents are asked anyway as they can over rule the decision
 
IMO it should be opt-out. There are too many lazy people around (or those without time) and if it bothered them that much they would find time to fill in the opt out form. For the good of society and those it can save this is my view.

HOWEVER - should somebody wish to opt out, for whatever reason they have, I support them as much as somebody who donates. It's a free choice and people have the right for either

- GP
 
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