Need some advice on the PC I'm ordering from you next week!

TheJamsh said:
^ That above spec seems more like a PC-gaming only type of affair, and a lot more expensive than the setup of my current basket. £400 is just far too much money for a graphics card IMHO.

I've also heard bad things about Seagate harddrives. The Hitachi in my laptop has lasted a very long time, can anybody confirm if the seagates are on par?
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I would argue that seagate are one of, if not, the best hdd manufacturers. I would take seagate over WD and samsung anyday.
 
sadas25 said:
I would argue that seagate are one of, if not, the best hdd manufacturers. I would take seagate over WD and samsung anyday.
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I'll take your guys' word for it. I'd like to stick with what I know, my Hitachi in my laptop has been nearly rock solid for 5+ years and its been used everyday like a desktop.

If there isn't that much difference in quality, the Seagate saves me another £60 or so, perhaps its the better deal...

EDIT: Very glad I registered here, you guys have saved me £215 or so already, and I'm still being stubborn about the x79 board and Processor ;P
 
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HDD Drives.
Seagate bought Samsung.
Western Digital bought Hitachi.

Everyone hates it when a HDD crashes, but remember the other name for the Hitachi, on these boards, is the Deathstar. Sometimes you just get unlucky.

You have 2 1920x1080 monitors so do you really want to work with 1GB video ram.

Why go with a gen3 board if you do not need/want PCI express 3.

You want it to LAST.

People/Governments who never appear to have the money to do things right the first time always appear to have the money to change/upgrade/replace further down the line.
 
Socrates470BC said:
You have 2 1920x1080 monitors so do you really want to work with 1GB video ram.

Why go with a gen3 board if you do not need/want PCI express 3.
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As for the first part, I'm honestly not sure what the VRAM does in reference to two screens. I'm still a newbie when it comes to GPU's, especially AMD stuff. I'll likely be using the 2nd monitor purely for desktop/workspace expansion. I'm one of the rare breed that hates playing games on multiple screens.

Nevertheless, if additional RAM is going to benefit me hugely, I may go for a 2GB version of the GTX 560/570 if I can stretch to it.

I do want PCI 3.0, in fact at some point during this PC's life it'll probably become a must. God knows what Avid will do with Pro Tools in future. It's highly likely I'll end up with an external PCI caddy of some kind.
 
Also, for sheer banter value, the current specifications of my Toshiba Satellite laptop, which I've been using as my PC daily. (I actually didn't realise they were so low).

I paid £790 or so for this about five years ago.

- Intel Core 2 Duo T7700 @ 2.4Ghz, 800Mhz FSB
- 3GB DDR2 RAM @ 666Mhz (Mismatched ram sticks as well)
- ATi Radeon HD 2600 (512Mb VRAM, PCIe 1.0)
- 250Gb Hitachi Harddrive (5,400 RPM, 7 MB Cache)

So, I guess I can expect an improvement, no :D?

EDIT: Updated OP with current spec.
 
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sadas25 said:
lol no expense spared with socrates!
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:rolleyes: What could you possibly mean :confused:

Huge sacfrices were made.

At least £2 was saved by not going for the MSI Twin Frozr version of the 7950. (of course, not yet in stock :rolleyes:)

Save a couple of hundred by not going for the 256GB SSD.

And saved another £400 at least by not going for the 24" Dell's. :cool:

Good God man, next you will be suggesting that I should not have people to peel my grapes, mop my brow, dredge my moat, or clean my duck house.
 
Socrates470BC said:
:rolleyes: What could you possibly mean :confused:

Huge sacfrices were made.

At least £2 was saved by not going for the MSI Twin Frozr version of the 7950. (of course, not yet in stock :rolleyes:)

Save a couple of hundred by not going for the 256GB SSD.

And saved another £400 at least by not going for the 24" Dell's. :cool:

Good God man, next you will be suggesting that I should not have people to peel my grapes, mop my brow, dredge my moat, or clean my duck house.
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Haha, especially liking the £2 saving on the MSI card...

Regarding my previous post, anybody know what the OCuK versions of cards are like? I might stretch to OCuK's version of the GTX 570. Only put-off right now is it has the single fan, not sure how much difference that makes.
 
BTW, after my previous PSU recommendation I'd actually change it to this:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-055-BQ&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1083
Cheaper (slightly) still modular and higher wattage.

OcUK versions are just cheap brands as far as I'm aware, like Palit or similar. So it's likely to be a reference design, so will be fine. Some of the more expensive ones might be quieter, depends how important that is to you.

Are you currently going for whats in the OP?
 
beejjacobs said:
BTW, after my previous PSU recommendation I'd actually change it to this:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-055-BQ&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1083
Cheaper (slightly) still modular and higher wattage.

OcUK versions are just cheap brands as far as I'm aware, like Palit or similar. So it's likely to be a reference design, so will be fine. Some of the more expensive ones might be quieter, depends how important that is to you.

Are you currently going for whats in the OP?
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Yeah, my current spec is the lower one in the original post. Thanks for the link to that power supply, I think using a 650W might be pushing my luck.

How would say, an MSI version of the same card perform against an OCuK one?
 
stulid said:
Which GFX card are you referring too? GTX570/GTX560ti etc?
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Well, say I went from the Asus 560 Ti to the OCuK 570, would I see a substantial performance increase?

I'm stuck between 3 cards at the moment, the Asus 560 Ti, the OCuK 570, or the Zotac 560 Ti "448 edition". I'm not sure which one to go for.
 
Ah well 5 Year Warranty is a no-brainer, settled! So, the current list of bits to order, with a few additional parts I forgot to include:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-3820 3.60GHz (Sandybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x ZOTAC GeForce GTX 560Ti "448 Edition" OC 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £214.99
1 x Asrock X79 Extreme 4 Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard £179.98
1 x Corsair Graphite 600T Midi Tower Case - Limited Edition White £139.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) £112.99
2 x OcUK E2250SWDA 22" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £89.99 (£179.98)
1 x Corsair Hydro H80 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366/LGA2011/AM2/AM3) £84.98
1 x XFX 650W XXX Edition Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £81.98
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 64GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT064M4SSD2) £77.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual/Quad Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3K4/16GX) £74.99
1 x APC Home/Office SurgeArrest 6 outlets with Phone Protection 230V UK (PH6T3-UK) £18.37
1 x **B Grade** OcUK Value 300Mbps Wireless-N PCI Adapter £16.99
1 x OcUK Keyboard & Mouse & Speaker Kit £11.99
2 x OcUK Value DVI-D Dual Link M - M Monitor Cable (Black) - 2 Meter £5.99 (£11.98)
Total : £1,467.41 (includes shipping : £16.85).



Going for the budget keyboard, mouse and speaker setup because I'll be changing the keyboard to one of these at a later date:
http://www.avid.com/US/products/Pro-Tools-Custom-Keyboard-Windows

By the way, do I need thermal paste, or does the corsair H80 not need to be secured to the processor this way? I hear it has a thermal pad or something...
 
TheJamsh said:
The 560Ti seems to be the weakest of the three, and the 448 and 570 seems to trade blows all over the place.

448 Edition is is! I assume Zotac are a fairly reputable company? Not heard of them before...
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You get a free game with the GTX570:) not sure how much Mafia2 sells for these days, or if you have even played it?
 
TheJamsh said:
Ah well 5 Year Warranty is a no-brainer, settled! So, the current list of bits to order, with a few additional parts I forgot to include:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-3820 3.60GHz (Sandybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - Retail £239.99
1 x ZOTAC GeForce GTX 560Ti "448 Edition" OC 1280MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £214.99
1 x Asrock X79 Extreme 4 Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard £179.98
1 x Corsair Graphite 600T Midi Tower Case - Limited Edition White £139.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) £112.99
2 x OcUK E2250SWDA 22" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £89.99 (£179.98)
1 x Corsair Hydro H80 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1155/LGA1156/LGA1366/LGA2011/AM2/AM3) £84.98
1 x XFX 650W XXX Edition Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £81.98
1 x Crucial RealSSD M4 64GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CT064M4SSD2) £77.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual/Quad Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3K4/16GX) £74.99
1 x APC Home/Office SurgeArrest 6 outlets with Phone Protection 230V UK (PH6T3-UK) £18.37
1 x **B Grade** OcUK Value 300Mbps Wireless-N PCI Adapter £16.99
1 x OcUK Keyboard & Mouse & Speaker Kit £11.99
2 x OcUK Value DVI-D Dual Link M - M Monitor Cable (Black) - 2 Meter £5.99 (£11.98)
Total : £1,467.41 (includes shipping : £16.85).



Going for the budget keyboard, mouse and speaker setup because I'll be changing the keyboard to one of these at a later date:
http://www.avid.com/US/products/Pro-Tools-Custom-Keyboard-Windows

By the way, do I need thermal paste, or does the corsair H80 not need to be secured to the processor this way? I hear it has a thermal pad or something...
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The H80 comes with paste already applied:)

Have you seen this PSU? - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-055-BQ&groupid=701&catid=123&subcat=1083
 
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