Could you give up your democracy for a lifetime of luxuries

Glaucus said:
Sounds great to me, no reason it couldn't be overseen by a democratic president or government though.
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The problem with a democratic system at the top of it is that many of the appointments and the necessary things they would have to do for the overall benefit of society and the individual would them be subject to public opinion....and we all know what happens to Governments who are acting contrary to public opinion when election time comes along.

Without the necessity of be elected there is no fear that capital and long-term projects that maybe painful in the short-term but garner huge improvements to society over the long-term would be overturned upon the election of another oversight committee.

Unfortunately the problem with democracies is that regardless of what is actually best for the public, politicians are required to service the wants of the public rather than the needs of the public to one degree or another, especially when it comes around for re-election.

An appointed Government overseen by an appointed leadership, all appointed based on a merit based system of some kind with safeguards regarding the benevolence of such an appointed ruling body would largely negate the need for a democratic system. You earn your place on your own merit, not on the popularity of your manifesto.
 
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Or you put safe guards in, where government can't go against "facts" and are there only to oversee and decide on points that have no facts, of which there is many.
 
Glaucus said:
Or you put safe guards in, where government can't go against "facts" and are there only to oversee and decide on points that have no facts, of which there is many.
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Indeed, however with an elected system, you would have to maintain that the electorate were of sufficient merit themselves to warrant putting the best people in place.....

that would be improbable at best......at least with appointments based on a specific merit system you are ensured of giving the positions to those who best warrant them. Democracy simply cannot do that effectively.

Remember representation need not be by a democratic system....a citizen could quite easily be part of the appointments procedure as long as they have sufficient merit to warrant such a position. It is not only have a merit based governance, but a merit based society.
 
PermaBanned said:
What use are economists in a world without want?
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So you would be able to supply everything a society wants and needs without economics being the driving force behind analysing how to effectively provide those services and and how to most effectively distribute and manage resources and how that impacts on society as a whole.

Economists would be intrinsic to any societal model, without them you would be running blind.
 
Castiel said:
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So you would be able to supply everything a society wants and needs without economics being the driving force behind analysing how to effectively provide those services and and how to most effectively distribute and manage resources and how that impacts on society as a whole.

Economists would be intrinsic to any societal model, without them you would be running blind.
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So? Who cares if you're running blind when you have everything you could ever want? You could be as inefficient as you want.

Besides, who would be more use in this situation, an economist or a logistician?
 
PermaBanned said:
So? Who cares if you're running blind when you have everything you could ever want? You could be as inefficient as you want.

Besides, who would be more use in this situation, an economist or a logistician?
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I think you are missing the point....the system gives the people what they want, it is not necessarily a world with unlimited resourses.

And an economist would be more beneficial, as they would identify the best course of action or set of actions to enable a logistical supply chain to work at it's most effective, without goods, logistics is pretty moribund.
 
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What do you mean by a proper democracy?

If its what I think you mean, I couldn't think of anything worse, than a public opinion poll ruined country.
 
[TW]Fox;21316501 said:
How could you ever reach a situation where everyone has everything they could ever want? What a completely ridiculous statement!
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You couldn't. This whole thread is based on a hypothetical situation.
 
Ricochet J said:
Let's say you lived in a country governed by dictatorship. You cannot leave said country, and you cannot vote. Revolts against government will lead to harsh penalties.

However your every need is catered for. When you need money it's there. When you need work it's there. When you need healthcare it's there. When you need food, water, a nice home, it's there. Anything you possibly want and need is provided.

Could you give up your democracy for the above?
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Isn't that what all the immigrants over here get?
 
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