35i Z4 or Poverty spec Cayman 2.9?

Dr House · 22 Feb 2012 at 21:24

So I want to get rid of my 335i, its a nice car but I REALLY want a change. My wife drives a tank so I do not need more then 2 seats. I have a ford that I can use for commuting so I will only do 6k a year max.

I would like to spend 20k but I can go unto 25k.

I do like the 135i but its just not special enough so I have got it down to a Z4 35i which I will remap to around 370 bhp

something like this
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201208451248373/usedcars?atcide=emgm3&logcode=emf

Or a cayman, if i get the cayman I want a Gen 2 so it will be a poverty spec non S.
something like this
24k with VAT
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3602444.htm
or this
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3444986.htm

I don't want anything too old, I also don't want anything too expensive to run which is why I don't want an older 911 or M3. I will probably keep the car for 18 months or so.

So the power and comfort of a Z4 or the "slow" and poverty spec cayman?

[TW]Fox · 22 Feb 2012 at 21:59

Bizarre thread.

Either you want a roadster or you don't. If you want a convertible buy the Z4. If you dont, buy the Cayman?

panthro · 22 Feb 2012 at 22:01

Didnt realise the Z4 35i was that cheap now.

Dr House · 22 Feb 2012 at 22:04

[TW]Fox;21324174 said:
Bizarre thread.

Either you want a roadster or you don't. If you want a convertible buy the Z4. If you dont, buy the Cayman?

I would not want a soft top convertible but I don't mind one way or the other if its a hard top. To be honest I found I did not put the top down that much in the E93 because I am normally on the phone and its too noisy to make a proper call with the top down.

I have also lost my hair so I find the sun burns the top of my head

So a hardtop convertible would be a bonus but not essential.

panthro said:
Didnt realise the Z4 35i was that cheap now.

Yep they have come down a LOT which is why its a hard choice. You are getting a lot of car for the money.

LiE · 22 Feb 2012 at 22:09

I'd have the Z4, it's a nice package for the price.

Sagalout · 22 Feb 2012 at 23:24

No such thing as a Porsche that isn't expensive to run. With a newer one you'll just be paying for a warranty anyway!

My business partner has a 2010 Cayman S that's just cost him £2600. £1k for a set of tyres, £400 for a service, £200 for a warranty 99 point check and £600 for a years warranty.

And that's a car with nothing actually wrong with it!

JediFragger · 22 Feb 2012 at 23:59

Thank God I went for a Honda

Peerzy · 23 Feb 2012 at 00:13

Sagalout said:
No such thing as a Porsche that isn't expensive to run. With a newer one you'll just be paying for a warranty anyway!

My business partner has a 2010 Cayman S that's just cost him £2600. £1k for a set of tyres, £400 for a service, £200 for a warranty 99 point check and £600 for a years warranty.

And that's a car with nothing actually wrong with it!

My projected costs (minus fuel, tax and insurance) from buying my car (0 months) to 2 years of ownership (24 months) is £0. Car is a 2007 Porsche Boxster S 3.4l.

Based on 6k per year.

After 9 months of ownership I fully expect my projection to be correct.

This is with an OPC warranty for 2 years (free with car) and new tyres and brakes on the car at month 0 (done just before I bought it).

Clarkey · 23 Feb 2012 at 00:16

2 years without even new tyres on a 300hp car?

G-MAN2004 · 23 Feb 2012 at 01:45

I swear I see at least a thread a week from you asking about different cars that you are thinking of buying.

Spamalot · 23 Feb 2012 at 02:58

Peerzy said:
My projected costs (minus fuel, tax and insurance) from buying my car (0 months) to 2 years of ownership (24 months) is £0. Car is a 2007 Porsche Boxster S 3.4l.

Based on 6k per year.

After 9 months of ownership I fully expect my projection to be correct.

This is with an OPC warranty for 2 years (free with car) and new tyres and brakes on the car at month 0 (done just before I bought it).

Can I just ask the year and cost of your car?

Dr House · 23 Feb 2012 at 07:09

G-MAN2004 said:
I swear I see at least a thread a week from you asking about different cars that you are thinking of buying.

Well I'm trying to decide what to get and there is a wealth of knowledge here, the thread about the Mazda was for one of my friends which turned out to be very useful as someone pointed out to check if the belt and water pump had been done which he had not so my friend did not buy it.

thewanted · 23 Feb 2012 at 07:26

Dr House said:
So the power and comfort of a Z4 or the "slow" and poverty spec cayman?

Looks like you've already made up your mind! 6000 miles with 370bhp under your cheeks certainly sounds like a fun time.

[TW]Fox · 23 Feb 2012 at 08:13

Peerzy said:
My projected costs (minus fuel, tax and insurance) from buying my car (0 months) to 2 years of ownership (24 months) is £0. Car is a 2007 Porsche Boxster S 3.4l.

Surely a service is required in Month 24, and a set of new rear tyres at around 10,000 miles?

Are you expecting no depreciation at all?

Sagalout · 23 Feb 2012 at 08:26

Peerzy said:
My projected costs (minus fuel, tax and insurance) from buying my car (0 months) to 2 years of ownership (24 months) is £0. Car is a 2007 Porsche Boxster S 3.4l.

Based on 6k per year.

After 9 months of ownership I fully expect my projection to be correct.

This is with an OPC warranty for 2 years (free with car) and new tyres and brakes on the car at month 0 (done just before I bought it).

At the end of those 2 years though you'll have a car needing a service and a set of tyres which you will either have to get done or will take a hit in value. It also assumes you're actually going to go the 2 years without a service, which I know is the service interval but most specialist recommend at least an additional oil change. I also think 2 years with nothing going wrong on a 5 year old performance car is unlikely.

Having said that my 11 year old 986 hasn't cost me anything for the past 15 months.

My point was more that a nearly new Porsche isn't necessarily cheaper to run than an old one, especially when you include depreciation.

Brookert · 23 Feb 2012 at 09:41

Peerzy said:
My projected costs (minus fuel, tax and insurance) from buying my car (0 months) to 2 years of ownership (24 months) is £0. Car is a 2007 Porsche Boxster S 3.4l.

Based on 6k per year.

After 9 months of ownership I fully expect my projection to be correct.

This is with an OPC warranty for 2 years (free with car) and new tyres and brakes on the car at month 0 (done just before I bought it).

would hate to be the next owner of your car.

Spamalot · 23 Feb 2012 at 10:08

Question- If you get the Z4 (or any BMW) tuned up to 370BHP what will the warranty situation be?

Spamalot · 23 Feb 2012 at 10:12

Sagalout said:
Having said that my 11 year old 986 hasn't cost me anything for the past 15 months.

If only we could all say that. His 987 is of course covered by a Porsche warranty so no need to worry about repairs.

I think an older car is always almost going to be cheaper to run (when all's said and done) than a newer car of the same model, how much more expensive though is sometimes not as much more as it may seem, especially when looking at performance cars.

panthro · 23 Feb 2012 at 10:22

Peerzy said:
My projected costs (minus fuel, tax and insurance) from buying my car (0 months) to 2 years of ownership (24 months) is £0. Car is a 2007 Porsche Boxster S 3.4l.

Based on 6k per year.

After 9 months of ownership I fully expect my projection to be correct.

This is with an OPC warranty for 2 years (free with car) and new tyres and brakes on the car at month 0 (done just before I bought it).

So you dont plan on getting it serviced in 2 years or buying some new tyres?

Dr House · 23 Feb 2012 at 10:42

Spamalot said:
Question- If you get the Z4 (or any BMW) tuned up to 370BHP what will the warranty situation be?

I am told that they will never know, I had my car serviced a couple of weeks ago and they did not say anything.

However if they did find out I am told they would only reject the claim if they think the fault was caused by the remap.

I also have a device to take the map off if I need to.