Well it's harder to do any work on your weapon when it's kept at a range.
Also keeping it at the range restricts you to only that one location, meaning you wouldn't be able to shoot at another range.
ANOTHER shooting at a US school
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Well it's harder to do any work on your weapon when it's kept at a range.
Also keeping it at the range restricts you to only that one location, meaning you wouldn't be able to shoot at another range.
That isn't what I said.
A mentally unstable American will have relatively easy gun access.
Fair enough, I mistook your sentence.
It is cringe-worthy going into some American stores. Was in Walmart yesterday to get some socks and cleaning products and walked past the gun aisle... What is worse is that there was an aisle dedicated to ammunition which was just like the aisle of canned foods, just boxes of bullets stacked up that anyone can just grab a box and place in their shopping cart.
Well, professionals at the range could be paid to look after the weapon or there could be a well equipped work shop set up with a technician to help.
But I fail to see why a one would even have to own a a gun. Just rent a gun from the shooting range for the hour etc. Or have monthly membership fees that entitles you to use whatever guns they have. Would work out much cheaper as well and you wouldn't have to worry about maintenance.
why would anyone want to own an active gun which has the sole purpose of damaging and killing things? If the fun is in shooting, which I agree is probably quite fun to some people, then owning the gun is not important.
If you want to shoot moving things then something like paint-balling would be more appropriate.
I don't really see how there is an argument to be had about this, there is essentially no justification for the vast majority of people to have or be allowed a firearm in their home.
I suppose the most common reason is that it's for 'protection' in the event of a break in, but considering the intruders are likely armed as well you just end up with a bloodbath.
I suppose the most common reason is that it's for 'protection' in the event of a break in, but considering the intruders are likely armed as well you just end up with a bloodbath.
I think some farmers still require guns, and it's nice to have pheasant and other game bird now and then. I'm not sure the game bird market would survive if we had to run around the countryside with nets to catcht them...
I generally agree, for the vast majority of people there is no reason to own a gun. As for a hobby? Get another one.
I would love to be able to go down a gun range and have a go with some weapons but I wouldn't like us to legalise personal ownership of them. As you say, there is just no justification for it. Americans have certains things that they feel are intrinsic to their national identity and guns are one of them unfortunately. Makes them feel big and powerful I guess.
Having professionals at the range, and a workshop would cost more to the end user. So there is a financial reason to home storage.
Renting firearms also costs more in the long run, the range has the recover the cost of the ammunition, the firearm, the man hours involved, plus a little bit of profit. Renting is only suitable to tourists.
The sole purpose of a civilian firearm is not to kill.
Why do people own cars? Even if public transport was superb I bet a lot of people would keep their cars. They like their own cars, not other peoples cars.
Paint-balling is rubbish.
Han shot first!
Sorry couldn't resist
As long as you shoot the gun out of their hand I don't see a problem lol
they let retards buy guns?
err i think you have that backwards there's always maniacs who want to shoot up their school they don't do it because they don't have guns.
And building a bomb is out of reach of most, and running round with a knife is not something they think they can do.
A gun makes it easy.
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It is strange how people have such easy access to firearms. Just because its licensed doesnt mean it wont be misused.
For instance, Once a gun is in the house. More than the Gun owner has access to it.(As much as this shouldnt be the case)
It only takes a ****** off student with access to his dads gun.
For instance, Once a gun is in the house. More than the Gun owner has access to it.(As much as this shouldnt be the case)
It only takes a ****** off student with access to his dads gun.
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There was that madman in a Brummie Nursery who went at them with a machete and he only got a couple of adults.
You'll find it's harder than you think.
If there is a workshop at the shooting range then it will be no more expensive than repairing the gun at home.
and money should not really come into this argument, or are you going to put a value on human lives lost that justifies having a gun at home. E.g., do you think that owning a gun at home and saving 100GBP a year justifies innocent people being shot? I would prefer people who shoot a gun to pay a little extra money and the rest of civilization gains added security.
You could buy a gun and have stored permanently at the shooting range but I don't where you re finding that renting would be more expensive. Someone who owns a gun will still have to pay for ammunition, it doesn't grow on trees. Typically the rental costs would end up being about 8% more expensive than ownership over a life time, that is a standard profit making figure. And even that doesn't have to exist. the shooting range could be an actual gun club which is non profit making so the user costs are identical as if you had to actually buy a gun etc. As a club model one can simply have a monthly membership that provides access to all guns and you pay for ammunition, all within a non-profit making volunteer run gun club.
The sole purpose of a firearm is to kill and damage things. End of. If you don't shoot at a living thing then death wont result but that doesn't change the designed function of a gun.
A car used to transport people. It is entirely a different concept. And yes, people will stop owning cars when they don't need them. When I lived in Switzerland I never owned a car in 6 years and used public transport for everything.
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It's always very tragic when a shooting happens, especially when it involves young people.
I think there is an argument to how easily obtainable the weapon was to the child (was it a relatives or friends?) but it does come down to personal responsibility about where the weapon is stored and how easily others can gain access to it. I certainly have nothing against proper firearm use for hunting and (sane) recreational purposes which makes me also think, if the child was angry at a class mate and intended to hurt him pre-emptively and didn't have access to a firearm there's a good chance he would have taken another means, such as a knife. We have tighter gun laws in England, but there a still killings in schools involving knifes. The guns and knifes are the tools, not the reason.
I think there is an argument to how easily obtainable the weapon was to the child (was it a relatives or friends?) but it does come down to personal responsibility about where the weapon is stored and how easily others can gain access to it. I certainly have nothing against proper firearm use for hunting and (sane) recreational purposes which makes me also think, if the child was angry at a class mate and intended to hurt him pre-emptively and didn't have access to a firearm there's a good chance he would have taken another means, such as a knife. We have tighter gun laws in England, but there a still killings in schools involving knifes. The guns and knifes are the tools, not the reason.
Where did you get that figure from? Renting will always be more expensive in the long run. After a few years of renting, you could have bought the item out right. The advantage with purchasing is you still have the item after to sell on and reinvest.
It's not 'end of'. The sole purpose of a civilian firearm is not to kill or damage, they are made and sold to also be used for target practise.
Try saying that in motors. You may not enjoy driving, but some do.
The parents should also be held accountable for the shooting, these shooting would never happened if there was no firearm in the household.
Most American have no common sense, they think the second amendment allow them to carry firearms. It was written during wartime, when the 13 colonies gained independent from Britain.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
The right to carry arms and protect the country from foreign threats not a bloody home invasion.
Most American have no common sense, they think the second amendment allow them to carry firearms. It was written during wartime, when the 13 colonies gained independent from Britain.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
The right to carry arms and protect the country from foreign threats not a bloody home invasion.
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Some people want to kill other people sadly and access to guns makes things worse. It's a shame people can't handle guns. I would love an M16 
but as they can't it's better for them to be illegal.
It's their stupid obsession with freedom which is the problem. How about forget freedom and simply go with the law that makes things better. ie getting rid of guns.
but as they can't it's better for them to be illegal.It's their stupid obsession with freedom which is the problem. How about forget freedom and simply go with the law that makes things better. ie getting rid of guns.