*** The Official Nokia 808 PureView Thread ***
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Pics seem pretty decent
http://press.nokia.com/wp-content/u...africa-2-captured-with-nokia-808-pureview.jpg
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http://press.nokia.com/wp-content/u...w-in-rio-captured-with-nokia-808-pureview.jpg
http://press.nokia.com/wp-content/u...africa-2-captured-with-nokia-808-pureview.jpg
http://press.nokia.com/wp-content/u...a-in-rio-captured-with-nokia-808-pureview.jpg
http://press.nokia.com/wp-content/u...h-africa-captured-with-nokia-808-pureview.jpg
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They might do, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a long way behind the market leaders.
Honestly, it does. Camera's are regularly cited as one of the top 3 reasons why people select phones and saying "I have the best" is no bad thing. WP7 doesn't even allow that screen res in reference design (aside from the complexities of the camera app - Symbian can have programs coded in native which you'd surely require for such a large data object) so I can see why that went by the wayside for such a device. OS choice is OK, if you buy a phone for the camera you probably (BIG CLICHÉ INC) bought it for that rather than apps - people buy iPhones first and Androids second for that and it's not like WP7 was going to be a game changer in that respect.
I think it's worthy of a release. Cameras are limited in design purely by formfactor and what we are willing to accept is a phone (except that samsung phone/camera thing that was more camera than phone), this is a pretty decent compromise imo. Hell, I think it's good to have a wide product line-up, don't you guys remember the diversity we saw 6-8 years ago? Where is the mix of products from business to fun from then.
Nokia does some of the best cameras in the business still - holding onto your core technical skills is a good thing imo. The old guard has made a good move here, while I don't approve all that much of captain MS being at the head of their ship I think this is a good device.
That's virtually identical to the Lumia 800, is WP7 hardware weak too? (the screen has similar PPI to the HTC Titan 2)
Well yes, the WP7 hardware is fairly weak by the latest standards. Not that it matters in the case of WP7 because it's very quick regardless of hardware.
People are making the mistake of thinking this is anything more than the new version of the Nokia N8. It will go the exact same way as the N8, relatively weak sales and mostly being bought by people who think megapixels mean everything.
I don't deny the camera is impressive, I'm almost tempted to buy one just to try it out, but as an overall device it offers nothing outside of the camera.
Couldn't they have put MeeGo on it and gone down the N9 route?!
As dumb as it sounds, this would likely cost them more in support/app porting etc... UK networks especially refuse to deal with a new OS unless you have... clout.
We'll agree to disagree on this one. I take your point about cameras being the reason people buy a phone but those same people don't care about sensor size, aperture or depth of field.
To me the N8 proved that the market is simply more than a phone's camera ability.
This might interest anyone that's seriously interested in photography such as myself but I think thats where the interest will stop.
Most users just want take a quick snap of their kid on the potty and load it up to bookface or some other equally pointless medium and do-not need 41mp worth of image.
Symbian's integration for such things is awful, other must have's like web browsing are terrible at best and its email client is a joke.
Add in that it will no doubt be doomed to about a weeks worth of marketing before the budget runs out along with the software having no development future and I see a phone destined for the bargain bins in a short space of time.
As a technical exercise I agree its worth doing but I'd bet good money that it will cost Nokia more money than it makes.
No, because Elop has decreed that MeeGo had to die
Honestly my first thought was the same, if you're going to do something like this at least put a semi interesting and hackable OS on there.Everytime I see an N9 online I still feel the urge to buy one (apart from the price). I love how it works, app development was decent, they put together some great UI guidelines. I lament that Nokia were so slow getting a handset out that runs it.
What's wrong with creating a niche phone? It took Nokia 5 years to develop the camera and associated hardware.
Windows won't be ready for another 1-2 years for this type of innovation and MeeGo was buried long ago, so Symbian (or Android
) is the currently the only option.
We should applaud advances like this and not get caught up in petty OS/hardware arguments.
Windows won't be ready for another 1-2 years for this type of innovation and MeeGo was buried long ago, so Symbian (or Android
) is the currently the only option.We should applaud advances like this and not get caught up in petty OS/hardware arguments.
Yes we should Sarge but 1st and foremost Nokia is a business that needs to return a profit otherwise these advances are pointless.
Nothing is wrong with it. I appreciate this isn't a phone intended for mass market.
The issue is that I'm more annoyed by the fact that we have another N8 situation. The N8 was more or less an unpurchasable phone (I got one anyway
) due to the fact it was slow and ran Symbian and had a poor screen resolution.Nothing good was said about it except for the camera and the design. The exact same applies here.
I'm honestly annoyed that I'm having to look at such an impressive camera strapped to something that isn't very good. It's like having a 1 litre engine in a Ferrari.
Windows won't be ready for another 1-2 years for this type of innovation and MeeGo was buried long ago, so Symbian (or Android
We should applaud advances like this and not get caught up in petty OS/hardware arguments.
People (no doubt yourself included) have universally slated Symbian almost without exception. Then all of a sudden it gets a fancy camera and people are almost trying to excuse the fact it's rubbish...
Obviously it works and isn't completely terrible, but it's so far behind the other mobile operating systems that it is, effectively, rubbish.
pointless.. i wish nokia stopped with high end(can i actually call this high end?) symbian devices and just stick with w7 while w7 will never attract me as a user its still the best choice.. and symbian is DEAD i will never ever again have a symbian device no matter what they do to it
i wish nokia stopped with high end(can i actually call this high end?) symbian devices and just stick with w7 while w7 will never attract me as a user its still the best choice.. and symbian is DEAD i will never ever again have a symbian device no matter what they do to itpointless..
This phone may have been in development before they fully decided to range only Windows Phones. If they spent the cash on it then they wouldn't just drop it.
1.3GHz on a Symbian device should be rather nippy!
Shame about the screen res though, I guess it must be a restriction of Symbian?
If this had been on WP7 or even better Android I'd snap this up come upgrade time, I have a Nokia N8 as my secondary phone and although I don't dislike Symbian I wouldn't want two of them
they will probably loose more by having it on symbian that they would have by upgrading to w7(which i think is limited isn't it?) so logically the best choice there would be android shame that nokia ditched android completely without even trying it
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wtf does it matter if its Symbian?
honestly Symbian Belle can do anything any other phone can do, but people like Robbo will say it "feels" slower, etc which is just a bunch of crap tbh.
sure my nokia N8 may not open app's instantly, but neither does my ipod touch of similar age.
im pretty sure this phone will be fast and Symbian Belle is practically the same as android, just not as many apps (many of which are a load of crap).
it also has the best free offline sat nav available.
now let me get this straight:
emails - yes
camera - best of the best
sat nav - best of the best
android like OS - yes
seriously what more could you want? you do not need a dual core cpu on a phone, not yet anyway
honestly Symbian Belle can do anything any other phone can do, but people like Robbo will say it "feels" slower, etc which is just a bunch of crap tbh.
sure my nokia N8 may not open app's instantly, but neither does my ipod touch of similar age.
im pretty sure this phone will be fast and Symbian Belle is practically the same as android, just not as many apps (many of which are a load of crap).
it also has the best free offline sat nav available.
now let me get this straight:
emails - yes
camera - best of the best
sat nav - best of the best
android like OS - yes
seriously what more could you want? you do not need a dual core cpu on a phone, not yet anyway
Looks pretty neat tbh. Given the amount they put into the camera, it would have been nice to see a shutter on the camera to stop the sensor 'warming up' when not in use. (It might have one but I can't see details).
My wife's Sony Vivaz was absolutely fine on Symbian, great as a phone and took cracking pictures and video. I really don't see the hate for symbian other than it not being as pretty or modern as android/ios. As a multifunctional device and web browsing the other phones would be better though.
It unfortunate about the screen, it really should have been bigger, if only to satisfy the spec hungry.
My wife's Sony Vivaz was absolutely fine on Symbian, great as a phone and took cracking pictures and video. I really don't see the hate for symbian other than it not being as pretty or modern as android/ios. As a multifunctional device and web browsing the other phones would be better though.
It unfortunate about the screen, it really should have been bigger, if only to satisfy the spec hungry.
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Huh? Are you telling us that because an OS can do all the things other OS's can, that it is comparable. I have used symbian and yes, it can do most of the things my iPhone can but its still crap. Horrible to use, slow and unintuitive.
It won't get new updates after a while and it will be a bit slow. There is a huge difference between playing with an out of the box phone and one that has been in use for months with lots of apps so you cannot say that its fast after a few minutes play.
The camera is pretty amazing but do people genuinely place the quality of camera over the functionality of the phone? Its a ridiculously chunky beast which is pretty much the size of a P&S which sort of negates the point of a camera on your mobile if your mobile grows to the same size.
When they put it on android or WP7 I would be interested but until then, no thanks.