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***HD7800 Series Reviews***

Indeed, i just refuse to buy overpriced cards. £250+ for a 7870 is, well, disappointing to say the least.

No it isn't. £250 would be a great price for a card that can overclock and trade blows with a GTX 580.

Sadly it won't be £250. It should be, just like the 7970 should be £370 or so. But it won't be.
 
No it isn't. £250 would be a great price for a card that can overclock and trade blows with a GTX 580.

Sadly it won't be £250. It should be, just like the 7970 should be £370 or so. But it won't be.

I wouldn't be surprised if you could get a 7870 for 250, except it's tier isn't meant to be 250, it's meant to be lower, like 200.
The card however is fantastic.
 
What are you on about its tier is supposed to be £200?

Was the 6970 £200 at launch? is it that now?

It won't be £250 because AMD have lost their bloody minds. It'll be north of £270 IMO. Which is too much. £250 is the sweet spot I feel and it is worth that given that it's new technology and when overclocked it does definitely beat the 6970 and well.
 
I bet you be able to get a 570 or a 560ti 448 for less then 7870 for more or less same performance. If anything the 570 might just shade it . Still 7870 is a nice card . I think the whole ATI/Nvidia cartel stinks if im honest . We need a new player .
 
I bet you be able to get a 570 or a 560ti 448 for less then 7870 for more or less same performance. If anything the 570 might just shade it . Still 7870 is a nice card . I think the whole ATI/Nvidia cartel stinks if im honest . We need a new player .

You've obviously not looked at the overclocking performance of the 7870 then.
 
What are you on about its tier is supposed to be £200?

Was the 6970 £200 at launch? is it that now?


It won't be £250 because AMD have lost their bloody minds. It'll be north of £270 IMO. Which is too much. £250 is the sweet spot I feel and it is worth that given that it's new technology and when overclocked it does definitely beat the 6970 and well.

What's that got to do with anything?
The X8XX tier shouldn't be anywhere above 200, it's supposed to be mid range.

250 is not the sweet spot, that price has belonged to AMD's higher tier for the past 2.5 years.

The 79XX is the successor of the 69XX with the 78XX being the successor of the 68XX, except it's priced at the 69XX price bracket.
 
What's that got to do with anything?
The X8XX tier shouldn't be anywhere above 200, it's supposed to be mid range.

250 is not the sweet spot, that price has belonged to AMD's higher tier for the past 2.5 years.

What it's got to do with is that the 7870 is the replacement part for the 6970.

The 7850 is the replacement part for the 6950.
 
What it's got to do with is that the 7870 is the replacement part for the 6970.

The 7850 is the replacement part for the 6950.

Since when?
The fact they perform similar doesn't mean anything.
It's like this is your first GPU generation that wasn't the 6XXX.

Even though what you're saying is wrong, because the X8XX is mid range (Not higher tier like the X9XX) since when was it remotely acceptable for replacement cards to be what the 7870 is to the 6970? It's not.
 
Right...

HD 7970
GTX 580
GTX 480
GTX 280/285
8800GTX
X1950XTX/7900GTX
X1800XT/7800GTX
X850XT/6800Ultra

Which was £260?

You can go right back to the Geforce 3 Ti500 if you want. That was launched at around £300 which was 10 years ago take into account inflation and that's just under £400 in todays money.

Still my first ever PC upgrade was a Diamond 3DFX Voodoo 1 which was the best £100 I have ever spent on any consumer electronics! :D:D:D

7870 is obviously **** poor value .

Compared to what?
 
In relation to some cards, it's really not, arguably the 7870's made the GTX570/69XX completely redundant.

I would go one further and say at a £250/£260 price point it almost makes the GTX580 and HD7950 redundant as you have to go up to the 7970 to see a real performance boost over this.
 
I would go one further and say at a £250/£260 price point it almost makes the GTX580 and HD7950 redundant as you have to go up to the 7970 to see a real performance boost over this.

A 7950 has more percentage headroom in it, also don't forget the 7870 is 200 MHZ higher clocked from the get go.

I wouldn't say it makes the 7950 redundant, but it's an excellent card, priced in the wrong price bracket.
 
Yeah now you're getting a bit carried away man. It might touch the nuts of a 7950 but it'll be at full pelt. Overclock a 7950 and it's tada.

Plus the 7950 has 3gb vram so is far better suited to resolutions above 1080p and Eyefinity.
 
In some games it seems not that much better then my lowly 5870 which is still holding well, but in batman and skyrim almost 2x fps the 7870 which is great.

Sorta weird to see a 5870 that cost £100 almost only 5-8 fps behind a 7870 which may cost £250 in many games.

Think Nvidia really need to release anything at this point.... just need to force ATI to drop there wild prices and hopefully Nvidia deliver faster products as well.
 
The 5870 was an absolutely stellar card, there's no doubt about it, the only thing it lacked was DX11 grunt, which was a shame really.
Had AMD not dropped the ball on DX11 performance and had introduced 2GB as the VRAM standard back then, it could have been legen, wait for it..... Dary!
 
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