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ALXAndy said:
Oh goody a synthetic benchmark. You forgot to overclock the 480 BTW.

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Shall I just keep quoting this? Is that how it's done then?

There is no way a 7850 will 3dmark that score. Absolutely none. Your comparison is completely invalid given that you are showing overclocked scores.

I did the same, then you move onto power consumption, heat and noise.

Fact - every card fitted with a Delta blower fan (they're all pretty much the same) will make the same amount of noise.

Fact - The 480 in gaming and not biased rubbish like Furmark (apologies on that front as you seem to like a bit of bias) isn't anywhere near as bad as you make out, nor as bad as others have tried to make out. You can't fry an egg on it as it simply doesn't get anywhere near hot enough, not even in a bias test like Furmark.

Fact - if you are that worried about using 100w more at full load for a few hours a day and worry over £5 a year then I really do feel sorry for you.

The bottom line of course, as with any performance hardware part is overall speed and performance. And the 480 absolutely stomps all over the 7850.

If you want to go around going on about heat and so on go and find the CPU section and tell every Sandybridge E user how hot their gear gets.

No one cares. Not when performance is at stake. And given that the benchmark I posted above is considerably faster than a stock 580 your argument simply doesn't hold any water, comedic, sarcastic or anything else.
 
This card is the best bang for buck on the market at the moment, I don't understand why some would claim otherwise with the current prices in the UK.

The only alternative to this is a 7850 if you can't cope with the heat output and power consumption of the GTX 480 or game at a very high resolution (when VRAM may be a deciding factor).

It will still be a faster card when both are overclocked but I understand why some might choose the 7850 over it.
 
Boomstick777 said:
It's not an argument, just an alternate point of view to those that might read this thread and think the GTX 480 is good value at this price, I really don't think it is. The HD 7850 2GB is clearly better value than the 480 imho, if someone prefers Nvidia they could wait until Kepler and see what £185 could get you there.. The GTX 480 was a fail at launch and in 2012 not much has changed my opinion of that...
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It's got nothing to do with Opinions, you're stating it as a fact and posting benchmarks.

As such post more than just one synthetic benchmark please.

Many people only care about performance, so we want ingame benchmarks showing the difference between the two.
 
I whinged about it for months?
I thought it was a month, then bought a launch 7950.
Just because I bought one doesn't make my opinion any less valid, I wanted single GPU, the best card in my budget that I allowed was the 7950, or was I meant to stupidly buy a GTX580?

I never said the performance was bad, I said the price/performance, which it is, the gain in price is disproportionate to its increase in launch price from the 69XX launch price, that's fact.

You're the only one who has an unvalued opinion, because it's so stupidly biased.
You bang around buzzwords like "Cooler, less power" bla bla, yet we'll clock everything stupidly to the point we're right back where we started.
 
We'll keep going over this until you make a valid argument for why the 7850 is better than the GTX 480. More than just posting a single synthetic benchmark and going on about heat and noise.

Also if you're going to overlock, either use watercooling or get an aftermarket cooler. Since it's an EVGA card you can easily change the cooler or watercool without any problems about the warranty.

As pointed out before, that puts the card around the GTX 580 levels or above. Along with eliminating the heat and noise issues.
 
Boomstick777 said:
Really we're gonna keep going over this? Yeah I guess if you like lot's of noise and heat, then yeah the 480 is a great choice. Fancy being memory limited on BF3? Yes, then grab a GTX 480. Oh and if your overclocking don't forget your...

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I will just agree to disagree :).
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+1 for effort mate. Absolutely priceless :)
 
Martini1991 said:
I whinged about it for months?
I thought it was a month, then bought a launch 7950.
Just because I bought one doesn't make my opinion any less valid, I wanted single GPU, the best card in my budget that I allowed was the 7950, or was I meant to stupidly buy a GTX580?

I never said the performance was bad, I said the price/performance, which it is, the gain in price is disproportionate to its increase in launch price from the 69XX launch price, that's fact.

You're the only one who has an unvalued opinion, because it's so stupidly biased.
You bang around buzzwords like "Cooler, less power" bla bla, yet we'll clock everything stupidly to the point we're right back where we started.
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When cards run 'cooler and quieter' it means they can overclock further. I didn't think that would need explaining to someone with your obvious vast knowledge.

Im not biased buddy my last card was a GTX 570, I got that to replace a HD 6990 that sounded like a leaf blower/jet plane on takeoff. I like performance yes, but not at the cost of my hearing.

The GTX 480 was an epic fail @ over £400, guess what.. The HD 7850 2Gb is better option at the same price, if not wait for Kepler see what £185 can get you there..
 
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Boomstick777 said:
This from the guy who moaned and whinged about how bad the performance and price of the 79XX was for months and then went out and bought one?! :rolleyes:

Yeah your opinion is highly valued :p
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Quit trolling already, the fact is that (judging by the Guru3D review you were so keen on taking a synthetic benchmark result from), the 7850 barely keeps up with the 560 448 cores in some games, losses quite badly in others.

It's clearly a slower card than the GTX480 so your poor comparison "showing" how superior the 7850 really is, was laughable at most. Admittedly the card has a slightly higher overclocking potential (a little over 20% to around 20% on the GTX480).

Don't spam the thread with your judgement attempts on other people's views as nobody really cares about that anyway.
 
Boomstick777 said:
*** Oh and when cards run 'cooler and quieter' it means they can overclock further. I didn't think that would need explaining to someone with your obvious vast knowledge.

Im not biased buddy my last card was a GTX 570, I got that to replace a HD 6990 that sounded like a leaf blower/jet plane on takeoff. I like performance yes, but not at the cost of my hearing.

The GTX 480 was an epic fail, guess what.. It's still an epic fail. I stand by what I said, HD 7850 2Gb is better value, if not wait for Kepler see what £185 can get you there..

If someone really is seeking heat/noise and memory limitations on BF3 etc then the GTX 480 is the best bet :)
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I think you are just being daft now.. :(
 
Mr Krugga said:
Quit trolling already, the fact is that (judging by the Guru3D review you were so keen on taking a synthetic benchmark result from), the 7850 barely keeps up with the 560 448 cores in some games, losses quite badly in others.

It's clearly a slower card than the GTX480 so your poor comparison "showing" how superior the 7850 really is, was laughable at most. Admittedly the card has a slightly higher overclocking potential (a little over 20% to around 20% on the GTX480).

Don't spam the thread with your judgement attempts on other people's views as nobody really cares about that anyway.
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I have nothing against other peoples views my friend merely defending my own, I won't be swayed from it either, it you read my posts I tried to drop the conversation a while back, but it seems ive stirred up the Nvidia fanboy hive. It's not a slower a card for one, in 3D mark 11 it beats it at stock let alone overclocked, im not sure how that makes it slower.

Yeah in some games it may trail behind by 1 - 5 fps, but remember the 7950 2GB is running those fps without the need for ear muffs or water cooling to stop the card burning. Like I said before I will agree to disagree..
 
Boomstick777 said:
I have nothing against other peoples views my friend merely defending my own, I won't be swayed from it either, it you read my posts I tried to drop the conversation a while back, but it seems ive stirred up the Nvidia fanboy hive. It's not a slower a card for one, in 3D mark 11 it beats it at stock let alone overclocked, im not sure how that makes it slower.

Yeah in some games it may trail behind by 1 - 5 fps, but remember the 7950 2GB is running those fps without the need for ear muffs or water cooling to stop the card burning. Like I said before I will agree to disagree..
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Half of us have owned AMD cards for the past few years (me, almost exclusively in my main rig), it's rather hard to justify calling people with objective PoV on things "fanboys"...

The 7950 3GB costs almost twice as much as the GTX480 here... And if you're bothered by the noise, EVGA allows for custom cooling under warranty.

It's not a card for everyone but it's a better card and for some the drawbacks mean little in the grand scheme of things.
 
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Boomstick777 said:
**** Oh and when cards run 'cooler and quieter' it means they can overclock further
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You can overclock the 7850 as much as you like. You can put go faster stripes down the side of your PC and put some fluffy dice on it too.

You can even put a sticker across your PC saying TRACEY AND BARRY.

But it still isn't as fast as a 480.

What makes me LOL is that you say you bought a 570. You are aware that the core in it is practically identical to the one in the 480?

I'll tell you the differences if you like, because you don't seem to be very educated on the matter.

The 570 has low leakage transistors and ICs to bring down the power usage. However, that's not how it manages to use less power. The card is fitted with a bios controlled TDP throttle so when you run an application like Furmark on it the card will stop itself from using any more power than on the spec sheet. It will also down clock, meaning that it can be a hindrance when overclocking.

Other than that? it has a vapor chamber cooler on that makes it cooler, and a lower RPM blower fan to make it slightly quieter.

It's still the same Fermi core that the 480 had.

Now had you owned a 480 then it would be within your brain matter to understand that when people post videos of it hitting the 90s it is running Furmark. However, since the 480 near on every GPU from every maker (that includes AMD) has been fitted with a TDP throttle.

Take that throttle away? the 570 is actually hotter and uses more power. That was how they got around it, and AMD followed suit with the 6950 and 6970.

In gaming? I've used a 480. It never got any hotter than 79c with the fan on 80%. Now granted, it was quite noisy. However, I do not game in silence I have a nice set of speakers and an even nicer headset.

The problem is you are just being completely narcissistic. And when others disagree with you you tend to become rather morose, choosing instead to be childish and keep posting stupid pictures.

Thus, you are trolling. Not only that, but you are trolling a thread OCUK posted with which to sell product. You are in here bashing the product they are selling which usually ends in tears.

This is a business.
 
Boomstick777 said:
I have nothing against other peoples views my friend merely defending my own, I won't be swayed from it either, it you read my posts I tried to drop the conversation a while back, but it seems ive stirred up the Nvidia fanboy hive. It's not a slower a card for one, in 3D mark 11 it beats it at stock let alone overclocked, im not sure how that makes it slower.

Yeah in some games it may trail behind by 1 - 5 fps, but remember the 7950 2GB is running those fps without the need for ear muffs or water cooling to stop the card burning. Like I said before I will agree to disagree..
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To be fair man, you presented the benchmarks and you made a few patronising comments. You disagree that's fair enough but plenty of us are using these cards and playing BF3 without limitations. @ £185 it's a no brainer.
 
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The only ones who don't like GTX 480s at sub £200 prices are the dang tree-huggers... And nobody normal cares what that lot thinks anyway.
 
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