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Isn't this somewhat hypocritcal considering you bring up incest as an argument against gay marriage?
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Actually no its not considering the context, considering it was to counter a claim of
"if its not hurting anyone, why not"
Yes it is. Effectively you are very happy to use extremes if they support your views yet try and dismiss them if they do not. If you think it is OK to use "incest" to counter "if its not hurting anyone" then why is it not ok to use "infertile" to counter "it is for having children"?
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What’s bigoted about definition?
Its easy to accuse people of being bigots, instead looking at whats being said.
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Thats his opinion, cant paint all with the same brush.
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I don’t think most people have an issue with "gay people", traditionally marriage has been between men & women and some wish to preserve that.
Some will hate gay people, but that’s not correlated with definition. They will hate regardless of what it’s called.
As “koolPC” put it, it’s not “normal” is correct in a sense as it’s not what’s traditionally been seen as the norm. The rest of his statement well it leaves something to be desired.
Some will hate gay people, but that’s not correlated with definition. They will hate regardless of what it’s called.
As “koolPC” put it, it’s not “normal” is correct in a sense as it’s not what’s traditionally been seen as the norm. The rest of his statement well it leaves something to be desired.
Indeed some are much more subtle with their bigotry.
For example extolling the fact that they have nothing against homosexuals (even if they are unnatural) but still find the idea of gay marriage wrong despite not really being able to give a good reason for it. Or perhaps trying to evade uncomfortable parallels of their views with views that they find diststeful such as racist arguments against mix raced marriage.
You are indeed allowed an opinion, hence I didn't rtm your post. If you want to hold antiquated bigoted views with regards to homosexuality feel free.
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Anyone who has a different opinion us automatially a bigot? helps paint the other side as being wrong i guess......
Mixed race marriage isn't normal using that sense of the word either, I doubt you would be as supportive of someone suggesting that though.
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Hypocritical no? Considering you accused me of being a hypocrite earlier regarding incest.
Anyhow ultimatly we are discussing gender here.....
How you got that from what I wrote I have no idea.
No, what makes you a bigot is your attitudes to homosexuality are not consistent with your arguments. If you really thought marriage should only be for child bearing you would be arguing against all marriage that is childless. If you really thought that marriage is a tradition that should not change you would be arguing against all changes to the tradition of marriage.
No, your hypocrisy was not allowing extremes when they do not support your argument yet allowing extremes when they do.
Otherwise you may have to admit that your predjudices are comparable to those that you find distasteful in others...
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I think its safe to agree that there are different opinions on the matter.
It easy to call the other side names and accuse them of being biggots, just to paint them in a negative light, but that doesnt make you "right".
For me personally its just a case of definition, cant understand why theres an issue with that when there are clearly massive differences between heterosexual marriage and homosexual marriage. These differnces should be celebrated...
It easy to call the other side names and accuse them of being biggots, just to paint them in a negative light, but that doesnt make you "right".
For me personally its just a case of definition, cant understand why theres an issue with that when there are clearly massive differences between heterosexual marriage and homosexual marriage. These differnces should be celebrated...
If I said that mixed race marriage should be called something else to celebrate the differences would you consider me bigoted or "just holding different views"? I see no difference between that viewpoint and the one you are espousing.
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Like i said earlier i only view marriage differences in the form of gender.