New Xbox 'won't have disc drive, launching 2013

wannabedamned · 10 Mar 2012 at 18:27

Tute said:
I admit I didn't read the thread, but what's with the hostile attitude in here?

It seems the attitude that is often prevalent in GD is leaking elsewhere on the forum.

Nexus · 10 Mar 2012 at 19:27

Sorry, I was just annoyed that the same things were being posted over without people bothering to read the thread first.

jaybee · 10 Mar 2012 at 19:32

numatic.nathan said:
Flash prices just simply aren't cheap enough to use for games consoles, and people who mention scratching discs and dodgy optical drives, surely you'd be more wounded if your cartridge died?

Cartridges don't die.
I hate optical media. I've hated CDs/DVDs since they became the norm. Minidisc was where it was at. Smaller and protective shell so no scratches. I welcome catridges.
Also, those daying they are less hackable. Not really. Catridge based consoles have been hacked too.

wannabedamned · 10 Mar 2012 at 19:39

jaybee said:
Cartridges don't die.

I've had more problems with cartridges than I have optical media.

Remember the fun times you had putting a disk in the slot for it to not work? So you blew it as you figured dust was stopping the contacts? Nope, Not working. Blow it again... Nope not working. Blow it again...Nope not working. Blow it again... YAY!

Optical > Cartridges

Dannyb01y · 10 Mar 2012 at 19:41

wannabedamned said:
I've had more problems with cartridges than I have optical media.

Remember the fun times you had putting a disk in the slot for it to not work? So you blew it as you figured dust was stopping the contacts? Nope, Not working. Blow it again... Nope not working. Blow it again...Nope not working. Blow it again... YAY!

Optical > Cartridges

Makes me nostalgic for the old days of Sega and Nintendo.

TheVoice · 10 Mar 2012 at 19:46

jaybee said:
Cartridges don't die.

Yes they do. In fact, given that they're more complex than an optical disc, they're probably more liable to just give up for no reason.

wannabedamned · 10 Mar 2012 at 19:51

I miss blowing my video games

/innuendo

biron_w · 10 Mar 2012 at 21:05

jaybee said:
Minidisc was where it was at. Smaller and protective shell so no scratches.

Mini bluray disc? You heard it here first

Vonhelmet · 11 Mar 2012 at 15:09

wannabedamned said:
It seems the attitude that is often prevalent in GD is leaking elsewhere on the forum.

I've had myself selectively banned from GD because it makes me rage and I get banz0red...

233 · 11 Mar 2012 at 15:18

i cant honestly imagine that MS would be paying anything over $10/cartridge in the kind of bulk they would be manufacturing them in. Surely the increased security therefore less pircacy - more sales will offset increased production costs, perhaps they will offer a download only option at a reduced price.

OpenToSuggestions · 11 Mar 2012 at 15:23

I have not read the whole thread, but...

1) No optical media would be daft. Cartridges with enough capacity would add at least £10 to the price of a game.
2) No backwards compatability. I realise people say 'you have a 360 for that' but there is no excuse for missing this off just to save a few quid on the console development and manufacturing.
3) No DVD/Bluray films are able to be played

As always there are a lot of BS websites making claims on new consoles.
The only specs I will take notice of are the actual ones.

gothic_hobbit · 11 Mar 2012 at 15:29

OpenToSuggestions said:
I have not read the whole thread, but...

1) No optical media would be daft. Cartridges with enough capacity would add at least £10 to the price of a game.

I agree.

Nintendo got a right bashing for sticking with cartridges during the N64 era.

One · 11 Mar 2012 at 15:31

Cartridges are pretty easy to pirate.

wannabedamned · 11 Mar 2012 at 15:43

gothic_hobbit said:
I agree.

Nintendo got a right bashing for sticking with cartridges during the N64 era.

To be honest even the Dreamcast\Gamecube suffered due to their inability to play DVDs.

If the Next Gen Xbox hits without the ability to play blu ray I could imagine a similar fate. Both Dreamcast and Gamecube were great consoles, with fantastic games. But the Movie media capable consoles were more successful.

Mobius 1 · 11 Mar 2012 at 17:14

if this happens, they will just release a seperate dvd/bluray drive, like apple did with the macbook air dvd drive.

i like the idea of games coming on cartridges/memory card.

Nexus · 11 Mar 2012 at 17:22

Tauren said:
if this happens, they will just release a seperate dvd/bluray drive, like apple did with the macbook air dvd drive.

i like the idea of games coming on cartridges/memory card.

No they won't, because console history has taught us that add-ons don't really work.

The MacBook Air isn't a fair comparison, it's an ultra portable laptop where the drive has been removed to make it lighter, use less battery power and the consumers buying them largely don't have a massive need for a drive.

A games console is a fixed device, usually plugged into people's TV or home entertainment system.

Macky · 11 Mar 2012 at 17:25

Tauren said:
if this happens, they will just release a seperate dvd/bluray drive, like apple did with the macbook air dvd drive.

i like the idea of games coming on cartridges/memory card.

So make the consumer spend more money then?

Mobius 1 · 11 Mar 2012 at 17:26

Macky said:
So make the consumer spend more money then?

isn't that what any company's goal is? to make as much profit as possible?

edit: good point @ Nexus

arcon33 · 11 Mar 2012 at 17:31

Although it could suffer with the inability to play DVD/Blu rays, the way the industry is being pushed is towards download/streaming media content, after all apple seem to be doing ok with there sales of iPad etc selling millions of optical drive less devices reliant on there marketplace for media

Vonhelmet · 12 Mar 2012 at 12:51

arcon33 said:
Although it could suffer with the inability to play DVD/Blu rays, the way the industry is being pushed is towards download/streaming media content, after all apple seem to be doing ok with there sales of iPad etc selling millions of optical drive less devices reliant on there marketplace for media

Apps are much smaller than games...