Applying for IT courses at college...good idea?

I got PPM, I'm abit disappointed, but looking back I thought it was quite hard, yet in my foundation degree I got a Merit and am aiming for 2:1 at uni and doing a lot better quality work in uni than at my previous courses. Don't know if I was just lazy and younger then or what :(.

How many working hours was you doing to achieve a DDD?

I used to do 4-days of taught learning a week, with maybe 4 hours a day and then we had Friday off, so i used to spend most of Friday daytime working through assignments - then did part time work at the weekend, so maybe 20-25 hours total a week. I will say, Uni came as a bit of a shock after that!
 
Maybe that's where I went wrong, I treated college like school, as in, do work at school, do homework at home, but never got any homework. I think most of us did that.

Now at uni I do my lectures and spend every large block of free time in the library getting my assignments done as quick as possible and to the best quality I can get them.
 
Well i thought i would update this as i did indeed take the course and i am 4 months in nearly now. It has so far been very basic to me eg learning computer hardware etc but i have been assured it gets better :p

I know its way too early to think about but i am now starting to look towards what i can do as a career.

I am really enjoying web design and i have carried on from what i learnt myself before college. Is this still a career worth going? a tutor i spoke to at school doesn't think so.

What sort of areas of IT are the "future" ones?
I know it is hard to say but a little bit of guidance would be good :)
 
If your doing a Btec I.T

Do as level maths, doesn't have to be a2.

A lot of russell group universities will now accept you.

My friend redid his gcse math got a, and then as math while studying Btec I.T. Went to a pretty good university.
 
Thanks mate, i am =awful at maths, I achieved C grade in every exam bar one in year 10 :o and that knocked my overall to a D. I have resat that exam so fingers crossed it is a pass and i can get a C overall!

I will look into taking maths though, who knows with a different teacher i might do better!
 
Thanks mate, i am =awful at maths, I achieved C grade in every exam bar one in year 10 :o and that knocked my overall to a D. I have resat that exam so fingers crossed it is a pass and i can get a C overall!

I will look into taking maths though, who knows with a different teacher i might do better!

http://www.khanacademy.org/

Is good site re-vist mathematics. Can rewind if you get stuck unlike a teacher =P

If you want to do the more theoretical side of cs, I'd recommend getting good at linear algebra and calculus. A lot of machine learning and AI rely on that.
 
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Well i thought i would update this as i did indeed take the course and i am 4 months in nearly now. It has so far been very basic to me eg learning computer hardware etc but i have been assured it gets better :p

I know its way too early to think about but i am now starting to look towards what i can do as a career.

I am really enjoying web design and i have carried on from what i learnt myself before college. Is this still a career worth going? a tutor i spoke to at school doesn't think so.

What sort of areas of IT are the "future" ones?
I know it is hard to say but a little bit of guidance would be good :)

Like you, I used to love dabbling around with web development when I was younger (talking GCSE time - 4 or so years ago now) and really loved it, and would have loved to do it as a job at the time. But in my own opinion, you can't really take web development as a job unless you meet some very strict criteria - i.e. you're pretty damn awesome at it. You could always do some freelance work, but I wouldn't think you'd be able to make enough money to get by on unless you can attract the attention of some pretty big clients.

I ended up taking IT (along with Maths, Chemistry, Physics and 3D Product Design) at AS and A2, but wasn't sure enough on what I wanted to do to warrant going to uni. This made my grades drop (a lot of other factors came in that ripped my life apart a fair bit) and really did push uni out of my reach at the time.

I worked my arse off at a big retailer for over a year during 6th form and when I left went full time. I got to know the system techs quite a bit and organised some "placements" with the relative managers so that I could see what their job was like as I had no first hand experience of "real world" IT work - just a couple of website designs I sold and that was it.

I'm now 20 (as of last month) and working for a part of the NHS (East of England Ambulance Service Trust) doing general 1st and 2nd line desktop support. I didn't get the job because I had amazing qualifications or years of experience - in my mind I lacked in both areas! - I got the job because I made myself come across as a nice chap with a real hunger to do well and to work my way in to the industry. And that's the only way I would ever suggest someone to get in to IT unless they go to uni to get a specialised course, which will plonk them in a position or two "higher" than me. But on the other hand, in the 3+ years they're still learning, I'm earning money, learning more "real world" IT practices and have the potential to leap frog them in terms of hierarchy.

As for career paths for the future - it depends what are of IT interests you the most.

Personally I would say if you want to be intuitive, on the ball, "new era" etc, then have a look at cloud computing and networking - that's where a lot of the big IT players will be heading in the foreseeable future in my mind - and that's what I would have gotten in to doing at uni if I could go now. The world's your oyster when it comes to IT - and the good thing is that it's very easy to learn a new aspect of it and potentially swap career paths if what you are doing doesn't satisfy you!

All the best with the course as well, and congrats on getting in! :)
 
Hey BizKid I'm currently doing that course at the moment if i think its the one you mean. The assignments ain't that bad just make sure you keep on top of them and don't let them build up at the moment we are getting plenty of time to be able to do the assignments in class time bearing in mind you don't ass around.
The course is made up of units each unit contains different things e.g. Unit 1 is employ-ability stuff -rolls eyes- its one of them courses some of the units you will struggle to stay awake in but others you will really enjoy. You do do a bit of everything in the course e.g. Tomorrow i have Web Design and Unit 1 -cough- sleep time.

The assignments are usually set out something like this....

This is Unit 3 Assignment 1

3 P1 Explain how organisations use information
3 P2 Discuss the characteristics of good information
3 P3 Explain the issues related to the use of information
3 P4 Describe the features and functions of information systems
3 M1 Illustrate the information flow between different functional areas
3 M2 Assess how issues related to the use of information affect an organisation
3 D1 Explain how an organisation could improve the quality of its business information

Basically if you do all the P criteria you get a pass in that unit do all the P's and M's you get a merit do all the P's M's and D's and you get a Distinction. Distinction are equal to A's at A-level.

(I realise this is an old thread but as its already been brought back by someone someone might get some use out of the information :) )
 
If you're aiming on getting into a decent university you'd probably be best going down the AS/A2 route as opposed to the BTEC, as they tend to have quiestionable reputations.

What utter tosh, maybe in the past yes but now the only universities that don't really accept BTECs are Oxbridge. I know people with DDD in the Software Development and/or Networking BTECs that go to Imperial, Manchester, Southampton etc, etc.
 
BJN- Thanks for that mate. I will have a look at possibly taking extra lessons eg A level maths.
I think like you say that networking/cloud is the way forward, infact i applied last week to do extra networking to gain a Cisco qualification which i am sure will be useful in the future :)

Danny- Thanks mate, i have done all my assignments up till Jan next year to distinction :p, like i say what we are doing atm is really easy!
 
The time has come where i make a decision on what i want to choose to "specialize" in next year.

My 3 options;
Business and IT

Software Development and Web

Networking and Systems Support

Where do people see the future of IT? I am enjoying the web and graphics assignments etc but this is more of a hobby than a future career but i am unsure.

Anyone on here can offer any advice on what direction they are going in or what way i should be looking?

Thanks guys :)
 
I did BTEC It in year 12. It was terrible. All spreadsheets and things. My college had a problem with the exams as well, The exams were not marked correctly and so a high percentage failed despite having written down the correct answers. Same happened to the year 12 class a year later.

I suppose you should talk to any of the IT staff about it first, see if it's what you want to do.
 
Swifty- Ultimately it is but i am just looking for a bit of advice.
Really leaning towards networking as my college offer the CCNA qualifications which are good to have.

Chris- I have done no spreadsheets at all!. My course although it says is a BTEC seems different to what some people not only on here assume it is.

I will try and sit down with a "lecturer" tomorrow and see where i should go off into.
 
Hey Biz, I'm currently in the second year of a BTEC Level 3 Extended Diploma for IT Practitioners.

What units you will do/have the chance to do depends on what college you study at. The course I'm doing is 100% coursework based and the assignments are laid out like Danny09 said earlier. There are 3 compulsory units that you have to complete during the course and all 3 are pretty boring. The other 15 units can be pretty varied including basic programming, spreadsheets, databases, web design/dev and networking and hardware.

You will probably find out for sure the details of your course from the chat with a lecturer you're having tomorrow. BTECs can vary massively as the syllabus changes quite regularly.
 
Hey Biz, I'm currently in the second year of a BTEC Level 3 Extended Diploma for IT Practitioners.

What units you will do/have the chance to do depends on what college you study at. The course I'm doing is 100% coursework based and the assignments are laid out like Danny09 said earlier. There are 3 compulsory units that you have to complete during the course and all 3 are pretty boring. The other 15 units can be pretty varied including basic programming, spreadsheets, databases, web design/dev and networking and hardware.

You will probably find out for sure the details of your course from the chat with a lecturer you're having tomorrow. BTECs can vary massively as the syllabus changes quite regularly.
Thanks for that mate but i am already on the course and nearly finished my 1st year? unless im reading it wrong?

I now have to choose something to specialize in eg units to focus on and this is what i am asking. What direction to go in.

I understand the course fully and all the units involved for each path i can choose its just choosing one i am struggling with.
 
The time has come where i make a decision on what i want to choose to "specialize" in next year.

My 3 options;


Where do people see the future of IT? I am enjoying the web and graphics assignments etc but this is more of a hobby than a future career but i am unsure.

Anyone on here can offer any advice on what direction they are going in or what way i should be looking?

Thanks guys :)

Just my thoughts, ultimately you should go for what you enjoy. Nothing worse than being stuff in a job you dislike or you find tedious.

Business and IT
Not entirely sure what they mean by that, if they mean design/architecture then there's defiantly money to be made there and a good career for the few at the top, I'm not convinced that there's a lot of posts out there to fill though and I can't see there being a huge turnover of staff already in those coveted posts. If you want into management do a management course - IT staff like being managed by managers who know what they're doing, nothing worse than an IT person promoted to management who doesn't have a scoobie about actually managing staff.

Software Development and Web
Development - Yes if you're talented enough, I wouldn't touch web with a bargepole though. Too many people getting into web design etc and it's going to move abroad more and more.

Networking and Systems Support
Networking can be a good earner, but there's a lot people going for network posts now, so you'll have to constantly update/retrain to keep ahead of the game. Anyone with experience is going to trump you too, people want reliable and experienced network folk.

Systems is going to head more virtual, heck I can even see it moving back to some sort of cloud based thin/virtual client for a hell of a lot of organisations over the coming years. If companies haven't moved support staffing overseas then they're unlikely to do so now, so it's a safe bet career wise, although like most of the fields you'll have to be damn good to get to the top level in it and there's absolutely no point doing it if you don't enjoy it, which few people do. Lastly experience > qualifications as many uni leavers find out every year and if you want to do support having VM ware experience can't hurt at all.
 
Thanks halfmad.

I enjoy the web/graphics but i can always do that as a hobby rather than an actual career.

Really thinking of moving into the Networking side of things as my college offers CISCO training etc which will certainly help. Like you say more and more will move to cloud based systems etc so its certainly a safer bet then many careers.

If i was to choose that direction is there anything you would recommend i start learning now? any programs? books? or anything i should be learning now so i can come out of college with both experience and the qualifications.

Thanks
 
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