I will make London a beacon of Islam

[Pate]

Enoch Powell was right.

But alas even the name of that fellow has been sullied into the ground over the years, in an attempt to hide the fact he foresaw all that was wrong and that would eventually happen to the country.

Multiculturalism is a joke, an experiment which has failed miserably, and has now left the country as a complete mish mash.

And I'm not talking about race or colour here, I'm talking about the various cultures which have not assimilated themselves into our indigenous culture.

 

[kash786]

So indulging your basic animal urges to the fullest extent is more important than living in a healthy, respectful and productive society?

That is the main problem with the UK today. It's about indulging yourself as much as you can, as fast as you can. Stuffing your faces with mcdonalds and fapping yourself to perverted porno every day. He who dies with the most toys wins right? No higher purpose in life.

Just indulge yourself like a pig blissfully wallowing in it's own filth.

The man has a point.

 

[Pate]

The man has a point.

Don't think most would argue that our society is pretty unhealthy in a number of aspects, but instead would argue that supplanting it with a harsh dogmatic religion that is incredibly violent. misogynistic and prescriptive is really not the answer.

 

[bitslice]

What you actually mean is... those that do not agree with the extremists don't get publicity.

OK, the next time we have a bombing done in the name of Islam, you pop along to the Muslim council of Britain website and see if they even mention it. £50 says it'll be a big empty space.

If there was a Christian fanatical group, would all the christians go around apologising on their behalf? No, they wouldn't because it's nothing to do with them.

I believe the crusades have been apologised for, it's standard policy for Christians to condem acts of violence. If something is done in the name of Islam then I'd expect other Muslims to say something, silence is condoning it in my book.

The difference here is that someone from a nations armed force went and commited an illegal act. They are almost obliged to apologise because that person commited the act represent their country.

When the Taliban murder fellow Muslims does an cleric say anything about this being fundamentally contrary to Islam?
What a US soldier does is nothing to do with me but I felt bad for what happened.

 

[kwerk]

Don't think most would argue that our society is pretty unhealthy in a number of aspects, but instead would argue that supplanting it with a harsh dogmatic religion that is incredibly violent. misogynistic and prescriptive is really not the answer.

Nobody is putting forward any other options though. It's either Islam, BNP (unlikely) or varying shades of atheist cultural marxism (which looks like it will result in Islam anyway). I think Islam will come out tops, but it will be a softer form as it meshes with the soft effete European culture. I'm not talking solely about the religion but also the culture in general. Like Christian holidays getting replaced with Islamic ones and so forth.

There's a huge religious void in Europe.

What's interesting is political correctness was instigated by the soviets during 60s/70s as psychological warfare campaign. The goal was to destabilize western culture so they could insidiously introduce us to communism, or weaken us to the point we fell apart and lost the war. It was like a delayed action weapon and now it's finally deploying after all those indoctrinated students from the 60s are grown up and running the country.

What's funny though is soviet union collapsed before they could reap the benefits of their weapon, because we were doing a similar thing to them. Islam is taking advantage of the "weapon" instead now.

 

[kwerk]

Or in simpler terms now I think about it...

Britain used to be a conservative Christian culture. Not overtly religious, but culturally conservative with laws based on traditional Christian values. That is what the BNP is vaguely trying to preserve. Already too late for that.

Political correctness is an unsustainable intermediate state which says Christianity is obsolete and racist. Islam is new and culturally enriching. Coupled with mass immigration what do you think is going to happen?

We will get a state similar to the old conservative Christian culture we used to have, but it will just be Islamic instead. Not everyone will believe the Quran word for word but the culture and laws will be based on it. It will be pretty much exactly the same as before, just Islamic instead of Christian. Probably bring back executions, put homos in prison, etc etc. We used to do those things before though! Not much difference.

 

[RDM]

I know it isn't much of an argument but frankly kwerk you are talking an utter load of rubbish.

 

[Abraxaz1]

Can't honestly see any religion taking over the uk goverment, this just all seems like daily mail fodder tbh.

just wondering how many teenage muslims actaully follow the korans teaching to the letter compared to there parents?

 

[MeEsH BaKkA]

Whilst I find your theory on political correctness interesting, im not too sure on your views that the uk will become Muslim. Whilst there is easily enough Muslims to change the how the uk is run over the next few generations, I believe that in general the UK will become more secular.

 

[kwerk]

Also when you bring the USA in to the picture, they were fervently anti-communist and millions of them still are. The PC thing didn't take a full hold like it did in the UK. They are still largely Christian and it looks like they might go even further Christian.

I mean there's a good chance Santorum could get elected and one of his goals is to ban pornography for example.

 

[kwerk]

Whilst I find your theory on political correctness interesting, im not too sure on your views that the uk will become Muslim. Whilst there is easily enough Muslims to change the how the uk is run over the next few generations, I believe that in general the UK will become more secular.

why?

People are genetically programmed to need a religion or belief system. This secular PC stuff doesn't appear to be satiating that need. Like someone said above, it's a mish mash. It confuses people. Plus anyone who opposes Islam is a racist by default, you're not a racist are you?

People by themselves can still be secular but their moral/legal framework has to come from somewhere solid, not some obscure mish mash of wishful thinking which just makes more problems that it solves.

The current system has a reverse midas touch. Everything it touches turns to ****. It's Unsustainable.

 

[sigma]

Multiculturalism is a joke, an experiment which has failed miserably, and has now left the country as a complete mish mash.

And I'm not talking about race or colour here, I'm talking about the various cultures which have not assimilated themselves into our indigenous culture.

What do you mean by experiment?

Cultures have been mixing since time began.

why?

People are genetically programmed to need a religion or belief system. Says who? Isn't Atheism actually growing in the UK?

Plus anyone who opposes Islam is a racist by default, you're not a racist are you? Again, says who?

The current system has a reverse midas touch. Everything it touches turns to ****. It's Unsustainable. Right...

 

[MeEsH BaKkA]

What do you mean by experiment?

Cultures have been mixing since time began.

I kind of get what he means (not the experiment bit), what is happening are large community's of ethnic groups are forming in areas and are not evenly spread throughout the country I.e not integrating, wether this is the fault of the way this country has been run or just a natural response to stick together who knows, but it is fairly obvious this is happening.

 

[kwerk]

Says who? Isn't Atheism actually growing in the UK?

Atheism is a belief system, in this case it's a big part of the PC system. Have people worship the government instead of god. Haven't got a job? Government should give me one! Don't like something? Government should ban it! Want a house? Government should give me one! Something bad happens? Government's fault.

 

[kwerk]

I kind of get what he means (not the experiment bit), what is happening are large community's of ethnic groups are forming in areas and are not evenly spread throughout the country I.e not integrating, wether this is the fault of the way this country has been run or just a natural response to stick together who knows, but it is fairly obvious this is happening.

They don't have anything to integrate in to. It's completely vapid. Many times I've heard people say on here that there's no such thing as British culture.

 

[LabR@t]

Traitor.

 

[trigger-happy]

or maybe they just need to make a better effort to integrate and then most of the issues raised would be non starters ? Seriously coming to this country to live and not even making a basic attempt to learn the language or make an effort to learn the basic history is pathetic.

Actually they probably know a lot more about this country than most people here since they take the British citizenship exam. They do speak English lol I suppose they like talking in their own language, if you know two languages and your more fluent in one than the other you would obviously speak in the fluent one right? Obviously they will speak English when required. This goes for all ethnic backgrounds religious or not. Sure their accent prevents them from speaking well but that's what you can expect.

The 16 people shot recently, everyone fell over backwards to apologise, even presidents.
I don't recall ever seeing one single Muslim cleric ever saying 'the stuff all these extremists do, it's really bad, sorry about that'.
They've had twenty years to say something, and sorry I've never heard a peep out of any of them.

Sheesh, Gordon brown even apologised for slavery, what has that got to do with anyone now?

So all Muslims are terrorists? You forget that statistically 1 in 3 Al-qaeda plots are foiled by Muslims reporting them, they don't want those nut jobs in their community. Many Muslims have been screaming that they don't endorse such activities anyway. Sadly the media portrays Muslims as evil or the cause of destruction, its actually the minority of Muslims which the media foucuses on which are the nutters. They need to be taken to rehabilitation centers and re-educated about Islam.

 

[LabR@t]

less than 4% of population is muslim.

lets move on from constantly talking about them, they have to special rights live by UK law and respect the UK way of life or jog on.

 

[Amp34]

The 16 people shot recently, everyone fell over backwards to apologise, even presidents.
I don't recall ever seeing one single Muslim cleric ever saying 'the stuff all these extremists do, it's really bad, sorry about that'.
They've had twenty years to say something, and sorry I've never heard a peep out of any of them.

Sheesh, Gordon brown even apologised for slavery, what has that got to do with anyone now?

Don't read the news much? There are always stories of Clerics and Imams disassociating themselves and apologising for their "kin" when a muslim terrorist attack occurs. The articles describing the acts themselves usually have pieces where the "muslims" that did it are condemned by the Imams...

 

[BarBrawllin]

Or in simpler terms now I think about it...

Britain used to be a conservative Christian culture. Not overtly religious, but culturally conservative with laws based on traditional Christian values. That is what the BNP is vaguely trying to preserve. Already too late for that.

Political correctness is an unsustainable intermediate state which says Christianity is obsolete and racist. Islam is new and culturally enriching. Coupled with mass immigration what do you think is going to happen?

We will get a state similar to the old conservative Christian culture we used to have, but it will just be Islamic instead. Not everyone will believe the Quran word for word but the culture and laws will be based on it. It will be pretty much exactly the same as before, just Islamic instead of Christian. Probably bring back executions, put homos in prison, etc etc. We used to do those things before though! Not much difference.

The biggest load of drivel i've heard in a while -1 for tosh or + 1 for trolling brah if thats the case. i agree with some of what you say,the comunist infiltration etc ,thats happend all over the west and you'd be mental not to realise that it happpend,but the UK will not become an Islamic state,never ever ever. I repeat,ever.