How do you deal with phone shop sales people?

People still buy phones from shops these days:confused:
Surely everyone knows now that all the best deals are online !

I have to agree though, the few times I've foolishly strolled into a phone shop to kill some time I have always been instantly pounced on!
But that's got to be expected when the sales staff are both on commission and in a highly competitive market.
 
To be fair to sales people, it's their job. Sometimes I say hello to people when they come in, just to say hello, and they look at me like I just groped their missus. Seriously, get over it. I help lots of people every day to find things because I approached them, sometimes as they're leaving, sometimes as they walk in.

How do I deal with sales people? I let them do their spiel, because they have to, then I politely decline, saying I understand they have to go through the motions. If I'm buying something I ask them how I can help them hit a target if they can do something for me. If I'm not, I say hi back and say I'm just killing time so they can move on to someone who they can help/extract a sale from.

There's nothing worse than some smart-arse thinking he's a shopping guru who knows how everything works and that I'm just trying to take him for everything he's got. I'm afraid, OP, that when you walk into their shop the feeling is mutual.
 
Thread full of people who don't realise some people are talking about sales employees pestering a customer and the others who are talking about good customer service/expected service.

I've never had a problem in my experience, but I understand not every sales experience comes across as peachy. But then when technology is concerned I do all my research online and know what I want before I walk in the door, which is unlikely because it's cheaper online by a long shot here, even without VAT.
 
So you were walking past a shop, mid contract, and thought you'd pop in and look at new phones to kill time? Get out. Seriously.

Wow, if ever there was an example of how full of themselves sales assistants can be, this has to be it. Did you seriously just post that?

It's a shop, on a high street. Therefore the general public will browse. Todays browser is tommorrows buyer.

I actually am amazed we have somebody who works in a high street shop who genuinelly feels that unless you actually wish to buy you shouldn't enter!

It's a phone shop not a bepsoke tailors.

This is the problem for retailers with commission based payment structures. For the staff it becomes all about ticking the boxes to get the money and not about the customer service. As you've just perfectly demonstrated. What a stunning ambassador for the brand somebody with such a viewpoint must be!
 
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You should try the Orange store in West Quay in Southampton, it's a job to even get a staff member to make eye contact with you when you want something from them, being hounded is the least of your worries.
 
Other end of the spectrum

I walked in a local family run electrical retailers recently and went to the till for some advice. All 3 salesmen were on the phone talking to customers or suppliers.

I stood there for about 5 minutes and not one of them made eye contact with me or said sorry be with you in a second.

I laughed and walked out... I must have looked a bit weird but i was amazed how crap they all were. I was planning on buying a new hob and cooker, £700 quids worth. Their loss i guess.

Phone shops. Never had more than one answer before left alone. Sofa shops are the ones that pee me off 1 person swooping on you every 30 seconds in my local.
 
I hate pushy sales people. I nearly always know exactly what I want when I go into a shop and the only two shops I browse in a book and clothes shops.

Thankfully my phone comes from the online Apple Store so I don't have to deal with desperate-for-a-sale types.
 
[TW]Fox;21542163 said:
Wow, if ever there was an example of how full of themselves sales assistants can be, this has to be it. Did you seriously just post that?

I do not think my viewpoint is full of themselves, more one who has become overly jaded after 7 years in a sales role. Perhaps my points were made in a fashion to get a reaction, but that is to an extent the way I feel.

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I actually am amazed we have somebody who works in a high street shop who genuinelly feels that unless you actually wish to buy you shouldn't enter!

That was not quite the point I wanted to get across. I was always just as happy to deal with customer service issues as I was to sell, as it meant there was genuine work to be done - something that would have an outcome, either a phone sold or an issue resolved.

I found the most frustrating thing about my time working on the high street to be dealing with those people just browsing. I don't mean the people that are intent on purchasing a device and want to make an informed decision by visitting several stores and getting an idea of the products available, I mean people who would come into a store just to play with handsets and talk.

An example of this would be a customer who is 6 months into his 18 month contract, a new handset has come out and he would like to take a look it. He informs you early on that he still has 12 months to run on the contract, so wont be buying but just wants to see what the phone can do. You spend 20 minutes with this person, you have to demonstrate almost every single feature of the phone to him. At the same time you can see other people waiting, some have money in their hands, but you cannot get away, you cant just fob somebody off because they are not buying, as much as you want to.

The problem with the scenario above is that you very rarely see a positive outcome from it. When you sell a phone you have a happy customer leaving with a new handset and a smile on their face. When you solve a customer services issue you (hopefully) have a tangible end result, the phone is fixed, a setting is changed, bills are explained, whatever - but hopefully at the end of it a disgruntled customer is now a contented customer. From my example above, I feel like I've had no impact on the situation, the guy wanted to look at the phone, he has looked at the phone, thanked me and now left. If in 12 months time he decides he still wants to purchase that handset the likelyhood that I will even find out about it is effectively 0. There is no satisfying end to it for me. I understand that it was my job to help him, which I did to the best of my ability, but at the same time its something about my job that I found incredibly frustrating just like there are things that most of us find frustrating about our work.

[TW]Fox;21542163 said:
This is the problem for retailers with commission based payment structures. For the staff it becomes all about ticking the boxes to get the money and not about the customer service. As you've just perfectly demonstrated. What a stunning ambassador for the brand somebody with such a viewpoint must be!

I'm hoping that my comments above have changed your opinion from this section here, as I disagree with what has been said - I can understand how you feel from the original posts that I may have all about ticking boxes to generate money but I take real issue with that. I do not doubt that people like that exist in mobile phone retail, I have worked with many of them - but despite my opinions that was not me.



I would also like everybody to note that I no longer work for Vodafone, and am not associated with them in any capacity so please do not judge a pretty decent company on the bitter ramblings of an ex-employee!
 
I do not think my viewpoint is full of themselves, more one who has become overly jaded after 7 years in a sales role. Perhaps my points were made in a fashion to get a reaction, but that is to an extent the way I feel.

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I would also like everybody to note that I no longer work for Vodafone, and am not associated with them in any capacity so please do not judge a pretty decent company on the bitter ramblings of an ex-employee!

I was going to suggest for your sake and that of your customers you consider a career change, but it seems you have already done so :p

The golden rule of retail - The world is full of Idiots - But when all you see are idiots and it impacts your quality of service, you have gone over to the dark side, its time to get out.
 
I don't work in a phone shop, but the way I do which I hope is good customer service is to engage in everyday conversation. If it goes well offer them a brew.

In the meantime I ask them indirect questions on what they are after.

If I don't get a sale it's not the end of the world for me, as I know I have given them a shopping experience, of which they will tell friends and family. They usually come back and purchase then end up being a regular customer.

Most of the big chains are caught up witht hte American system of customer service, not realising we are completely different in culture when it comes to retail
 
The trouble is that phone shops are so crap (fake plastic phones, half of them missing or damaged), staffed by morons who don't actually know anything about what they are selling.
 
I deal with them by using the internet to research.

Or just have a polite conversation as they are just people and doing their job for a pittance and see hundreds of customers per day, so having to go "just looking" or "sorry I'm fine" a couple times is nothing in comparison.

What's so hard about talking to people?
 
I can't say that I've had much in the way of issues with phone shop sales people being pushy.

Last time I upgraded my phone I'd already decided what handset I probably wanted but wanted a closer look in person to make sure. Went to an Orange shop and they couldn't have been more helpful and allowed me to play around with a handset for 20 mins and then discussed the contract options on the upgrade. Pretty painless experience all in.

Vodaphone were more problematic ... went into one of their stores to grab a PAYG 3g dongle for my Dad and it was ridiculous how hard it was to get anyone to even talk to me at all ... and this wasn't even a busy time (there was about 5 members of staff around and only 3 customers, including me in the shop).

I wouldn't normally consider somewhere like Phones4U though ... they just have to bad a reputation for pressure selling.

Unfortunately it is time to upgrade my handset again so I'm going to have to start thinking about handsets and contracts again which always gives me a headache ... :(
 
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