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Dave Beast, do you like what you post on these forums?
I always just read the forums and don't post, but logged in to give you a sad face.
I don't have a 680 before you say
It's a tough battle going up against Verdetrols, thanks for the sad face, i'd have one if i'd waited 2 1/2 months for an overpriced, overclocked midrange card that has "short man" syndrome
Read the post above yours whilst taking your green coloured spectacles off pal
That's rich coming from you. I'm wearing none while your irrational rants are proof of the red tint on yours.
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Funnily enough at 5760X1080,which is the resolution the OP wants to play at,the HD7950 3GB is matching both the HD7970 3GB and GTX680 2GB in BF3!!
Their testbed is using a Core i7 3960X too. I wonder if the cards are either running out of VRAM or have insufficient memory bandwidth in this case??
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The HD7950 3GB has a higher framerate at 5760X1080 than at 2560X1600?? That cannot be right??
I've quoted it for you, cold hard facts. I can understand why you're so angry that Nvidia are hoodwinking the enthusiast community with their overclocked offering, but there's no need to get all hormonal with complete strangers on the internet.
The only thing I've got issues with is the hot pile of faeces you keep dumping on this forum. Well, I think it's time to hit that ignore button I keep hearing about.
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I post links/facts/benchmarks, that folks may or may not like and all you can post is rude insults on a family forum?
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Actually,the 12.4 drivers do improve BF3 performance with MLAA2.0:
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18384855
ComputerBase.de tested MLAA2.0 and said it improved image quality and framerates massively over MLAA. OTH,they did not measure whether performance using MSAA improved though.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18384855
ComputerBase.de tested MLAA2.0 and said it improved image quality and framerates massively over MLAA. OTH,they did not measure whether performance using MSAA improved though.
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You can't really include MLAA even 2.0 in any comparision here, its still inferior to FXAA or lower levels of MSAA in overall image quality.
I've just poured over a load of reviews and run the maths and overall the 7970 @ ~1200MHz in BF3 @ 5760x1080 is slightly under 5% slower than the GTX680, the 680 appears to have slightly more consistant framerates in reviews like hardOCP which show graphs but nothing that significantly more consistant.
The "only" 2GB VRAM concerns me a littel but doesn't seem to be much of a hinderance in most of these tests and personally I believe nVidia has the better multi monitor software support.
I've just poured over a load of reviews and run the maths and overall the 7970 @ ~1200MHz in BF3 @ 5760x1080 is slightly under 5% slower than the GTX680, the 680 appears to have slightly more consistant framerates in reviews like hardOCP which show graphs but nothing that significantly more consistant.
The "only" 2GB VRAM concerns me a littel but doesn't seem to be much of a hinderance in most of these tests and personally I believe nVidia has the better multi monitor software support.
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Why pick the Metro results Dave?
Is it because perchance it's the only one that shows the 7970 for the win?
First off, you need to remove that stick, it's nearly all the way up to your neck man!
I'm sitting on 2 6950>70's here as you must know by now, so here is my tupence worth.
If you don't want to oc, get the 680, it does it for you, and no Dave it's not cheating, it just does it!
If you are capable of manually oc'ing a card i.e push the core slider to max in CCC then get the cheapest you can find of any of them, they both perform very very close, so close when flat out, you will find it extremely hard to pick a clear winner.
Doubt it Rroff, imo, Amd have been doing it longer with eyefinity.
Just to let you know as a finishing point Dave, if this was my question to the forum, you would have single handedly made me click 'buy' on a 680 due to your arrogance.
With that I wish you a scincere Buona notte e sogni d'oro.
Is it because perchance it's the only one that shows the 7970 for the win?
First off, you need to remove that stick, it's nearly all the way up to your neck man!
I'm sitting on 2 6950>70's here as you must know by now, so here is my tupence worth.
If you don't want to oc, get the 680, it does it for you, and no Dave it's not cheating, it just does it!
If you are capable of manually oc'ing a card i.e push the core slider to max in CCC then get the cheapest you can find of any of them, they both perform very very close, so close when flat out, you will find it extremely hard to pick a clear winner.
Doubt it Rroff, imo, Amd have been doing it longer with eyefinity.
Just to let you know as a finishing point Dave, if this was my question to the forum, you would have single handedly made me click 'buy' on a 680 due to your arrogance.
With that I wish you a scincere Buona notte e sogni d'oro.
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See post above yours.
It doesn't fuss me what folks decide to buy, i'm not promoting anything, it's just a fact that a 7970 or 2 x 7970 is better in BF3 than 1 or 2 680's.
It doesn't fuss me what folks decide to buy, i'm not promoting anything, it's just a fact that a 7970 or 2 x 7970 is better in BF3 than 1 or 2 680's.
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Actually Toms Hardware commented on MLAA2.0 when they tried it with Skyrim:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-review-benchmark,3148-2.html
They considered MLAA2.0 superior to FXAA in image quality but with a greater performance hit in that game. I have a feeling it is very dependent on the game,so hopefully a few more websites will have a look at MLAA2.0. AFAIK HardOCP and Toms Hardware said they will in the near future.
I am still more intrigued by the PC Perspective review that stulid linked to,which showed the HD7950,HD7970 and GTX680 producing the same framerates at 5760X1080 in BF3,and the OP has 3 24" monitors too and wants to play BF3 at that resolution.
I still cannot explain that one TBH!!
Shouldn't the higher end cards be quicker at that resolution??
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7870-review-benchmark,3148-2.html
They considered MLAA2.0 superior to FXAA in image quality but with a greater performance hit in that game. I have a feeling it is very dependent on the game,so hopefully a few more websites will have a look at MLAA2.0. AFAIK HardOCP and Toms Hardware said they will in the near future.
I am still more intrigued by the PC Perspective review that stulid linked to,which showed the HD7950,HD7970 and GTX680 producing the same framerates at 5760X1080 in BF3,and the OP has 3 24" monitors too and wants to play BF3 at that resolution.
I still cannot explain that one TBH!!
Shouldn't the higher end cards be quicker at that resolution??
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Can you explain to me what i've said in this thread is "drivel"? Afaik, i've posted facts interspersed with banter towards aggressive posters!
Surprised you didn't suggest the OP go out and buy a pair of 6950's, as you often cite THEM as being better than ONE of the latest cards
I don't think FXAA is ideal either in a lot of cases - quite a few games look "duller" with it enabled - from my experience overall there is less overall loss of quality with it compared to MLAA but I still wouldn't use either by choice. However thats a little arbitary my main point really is that IMO you can't really take any AA system into account unless it matches or exceeds 4x MSAA (personally I'd rather take the performance hit and use it).
And I was going to bed as well.
Most of what you have said in here and most of the other threads is pure and utter drivel.
They are faster@1080p, @1GHz they are faster than both of the latest single cards (even oc'ed) in nearly every game out there, they have been faster and cheaper and being used for over year now, and by the looks of things, they will stay there until something better comes along.
Most of what you have said in here and most of the other threads is pure and utter drivel.
They are faster@1080p, @1GHz they are faster than both of the latest single cards (even oc'ed) in nearly every game out there, they have been faster and cheaper and being used for over year now, and by the looks of things, they will stay there until something better comes along.
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It's only drivel to those who can't understand or comprehend cold hard facts.
A 680 or 7970 at stock is at least 1.5 times more powerful than 1 of your 6950's at 1ghz.
In CFX they wouldn't be as good on multiple displays like a pair of 680's or 7970's, heck, even a single 680 or 7970 would be better than a pair of 6950's on multiple displays.
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Your point is when I have 2 unlocked highly clocked 6950's?
It went clean over your head that I game@1080p!
Both of them @1080p are slower!
I have never once mentioned comparisons or stating my setup is faster above 1080p.
Actually not true - nVidia had software support for multi-display spanning including 3D games (not stereo 3D) atleast 7 years before eyefinity even existed (I used to do it a long time ago with an early GeForce card) - unfortunatly they decided sometime around 2001/2 (might have been a bit more recent its somewhat hazy memory wise) or so to pull it from the GeForce drivers and make it Quadro only (from which mosaic was born) which along with locking down PhysX are 2 of the biggest issues I have with nVidia.