Virgin Speed Doubling, con?

HaggisUK · 3 Apr 2012 at 22:37

100mb is apparently available in all areas now.

Even if your area hasn't been automatically doubled yet you can get them to upgrade you now for free as the 100mb price was lowered to the 50mb price sometime in the past couple of days, i did it yesterday. Chances are you'll only get 100/5 instead of 100/10 until the automatic doubling has been done in your area.

Everyone is eventually being moved from 100 to 120 btw, not just those who are already on 100 now.

A2Z · 3 Apr 2012 at 22:39

bazaarboy said:
the faster service wasn't available to me prior to their recent campaign - ergo, when the new max became 100 I took it to mean that the network has been upgraded and there's no clear reason why I can't go up, even though I can pay for it...

There clearly is, why should they priorotise your area for the 'free upgrade' just because the 100mbit service became available?

Im pretty sure they are under no obligation to do the upgrades, so why are you moaning about something you are going to be getting for free?

bazaarboy · 3 Apr 2012 at 22:39

i don't live in your area, the technical constraints that defined your upgrade timeframe are not the same as my area?? thanks for the chat

Dmack · 3 Apr 2012 at 23:48

Looks like all the questions have been answered in here, stop moaning about an offer you will be getting for free.

olibb · 4 Apr 2012 at 07:43

I'm also in patient. My area is the same!

Jabbs · 4 Apr 2012 at 08:50

Yeah 100mb great but its on there STM now so the days of downloading what you want are gone without speed restrictions so what's the point.

janp · 4 Apr 2012 at 10:49

I don't get why so many people are moaning. Put it this way; even if I'm capped at say 45mbps, a "linux distro" :rolleyes:

at 3.4gb will take 11mins..............hardly slow!

Marky · 4 Apr 2012 at 10:58

Jabbs said:
Yeah 100mb great but its on there STM now so the days of downloading what you want are gone without speed restrictions so what's the point.

I think the STM they've recently announced is very good actually! If you're currently on a 50MB connection, you'll be upgraded to 120MB within the next 18 months. And if you happen to break the download limit, you'll be reduced to 50MB - Still a very awesome download speed

KIA · 4 Apr 2012 at 11:01

Advertising it as fibre is certainly a con.

chameleon · 4 Apr 2012 at 11:10

I do wonder at all the hype of doubling speeds when they employ traffic management. With higher speed comes increased use(HD streaming etc) and thus more people will fall foul of the dreaded throttling, completely negating the bells and whistles, super fast broadband. presumably the infrastructure is being improved to handle the greater traffic but I'll bet it won't remove throttling.

As the upgrade is over 18 months or so, I'll not hold my breath. My area, Edinburgh, was absolutely dead last in getting its upload speed increased (happened a week or so ago) so I'll no doubt be in for a very long wait for them to get round to us.

StonedPenguin · 4 Apr 2012 at 11:41

Dont mean to hijack but I didnt want to start a new thread for my random ping/line question..

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/ed1f3e461696b4c92ef469bf7936b3cd.html

From 6-10pm last night does that graph represent packet loss? Even if only a little? :confused:

cheers

FrenchTart · 4 Apr 2012 at 11:51

StonedPenguin said:
Dont mean to hijack but I didnt want to start a new thread for my random ping/line question..

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/ed1f3e461696b4c92ef469bf7936b3cd.html

From 6-10pm last night does that graph represent packet loss? Even if only a little?

cheers

Yes it does, though that amount of packet loss isn't terrible (not great either - at least around 7-9pm). It's unlikely that you'd notice the PL in general use. The ping jitter reflects the normal standard of cack that you can expect on a VM connection though.

StonedPenguin · 4 Apr 2012 at 11:54

Thanks FrenchTart

Glaucus · 4 Apr 2012 at 12:18

chameleon said:
I do wonder at all the hype of doubling speeds when they employ traffic management. With higher speed comes increased use(HD streaming etc) and thus more people will fall foul of the dreaded throttling, completely negating the bells and whistles, super fast broadband. presumably the infrastructure is being improved to handle the greater traffic but I'll bet it won't remove throttling.

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Except they are doubling all limits as well. So not only do you have a much faster speed, you have much higher limits and of course even when throttled you still have far higher speed than you used to have.

So kind of makes your point pointless.

asim18 · 4 Apr 2012 at 12:26

bazaarboy said:
I can appreciate that there are technical delays, but if the service is available now, and they are happy to sell it, why not just honour their promise of a free speed upgrade?!

It's not as simple as that.

The service is available to purchase in my area too. Free upgrades will be rolled out gradually as they update their infrastructure/backbones. They aren't 'dishonoring' anyone.

If anyone wants to pay for 100Mb now, be their guest. But don't expect to be upgraded for free under the new scheme just because 100Mb is 'available'.

Woden · 4 Apr 2012 at 13:27

KIA said:
Advertising it as fibre is certainly a con.

Why is it? The *vast* majority of the network is fibre is it not? Its only the last 100m or so, probably less, that isn't.

Sash · 4 Apr 2012 at 14:12

Glad I saw this thread didn't realise Edinburgh had upgraded to 100meg- it was meant to be May the upgrade but looks like its ready now. On the phone to them.

KIA · 4 Apr 2012 at 15:00

Woden said:
Why is it? The *vast* majority of the network is fibre is it not? Its only the last 100m or so, probably less, that isn't.

The vast majority of most networks is fibre. A service should only be advertised as fibre optic if it is fibre all the way (FTTH/FTTP) otherwise it is misleading advertising.