New laptop dilema

McCol · 5 Apr 2012 at 14:07

Next week i was going to pull the trigger on buying either a Samsung 700g or a MSI gaming laptop. Was more tempted by the Samsung, 3d, being able to output to my tv with such a powerful gfx card etc.
However I'm starting to wonder if i should wait for the Ivybridge based laptops. The current vat back on the Samsung seems to good to miss.

Anybody else in a similar position?

ish1 · 5 Apr 2012 at 17:35

Get the Samsung, its the best gaming laptop in its price bracket right now...I got one and it's brilliant so far.

There will always be a newer faster laptop coming in the future, thats the way technology moves...you cant win.

Plus the vat back makes the sammy a no brainer!

roughavoc · 5 Apr 2012 at 18:26

For the price of the 700G you can get a lot more power, 6xxM gpu and IB CPU's

You need to do your research and look around

McCol · 5 Apr 2012 at 22:16

roughavoc said:
For the price of the 700G you can get a lot more power, 6xxM gpu and IB CPU's

You need to do your research and look around

This is the thing that got me thinking about waiting but from info i can find so far, the IB laptops that will come out this month/May might only offer a 5-10% increase in power. Now with the vat back on the Samsung I can get the 700g for around £1200, the vat back will be finished by the time comparable/more powerful IB laptops come out and may cost me £200-400 more(based on rrp of 700g).

I'm thinking is it worth the extra for a fairly small increase in power?

roughavoc · 5 Apr 2012 at 22:40

The laptop I was going to buy was at £1250 and came with 2.6Ghz-IB-i7-QM, 8Gb ram and 675M (580M)

Google devil laptops (hopefullly this isnt against rules) and youll find it, theyre a german company but it should all be good

EDIT: The 700G has a 6970M which isnt so great when compared to a 675M

ish1 · 5 Apr 2012 at 23:50

I'd much rather buy a laptop from a reputable company like Samsung and from the UK.

If you run into problems, you would have to send the laptop back to Germany.

And the Samsung can run BF3, Crysis on highest settings at 1920x1080 at a very good framerate...

Purgatory · 6 Apr 2012 at 00:23

Samsung you would be crazy to miss the vat back offer.

roughavoc · 6 Apr 2012 at 00:24

You would be buying a laptop that is already out of date though "/

Purgatory · 6 Apr 2012 at 03:41

roughavoc said:
You would be buying a laptop that is already out of date though "/

roughavoc said:
EDIT: The 700G has a 6970M which isnt so great when compared to a 675M
/

Out of date ? LOL :rolleyes:

, the Ivy version will only be 5-10% faster on the CPU and the GTX 675M is just a 580M rebadged. Also the 6970M in the current SandyBridge version has better video quality and is faster in some games than a 580M. When did a 5-10% perfomance increase cost £400-500+. The Samsung deal on now is a no brainer. roughavoc do your research before you advise people on how to spend their hard earned money. I own this laptop and a friend that had an alienware top end gaming laptop sold his that had a 580M for the same laptop I have now.

Read some reviews on the 6970M and 580M, also understand what Ivy bridge is, it is a sandy bridge die shrink with a new intergrated GPU (WHICH YOU CAN'T USE OR ACCESS ON THE SAMSUNG THE INTERGRATED GPU ON THE CPU). :rolleyes:

Also the GTX 675M Ivy version of this laptop will either not have 3D or you will need to go buy a Nvidia glasses for it. This current version comes with the £100 3D glasses too.

Read this thread

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18364947

Read this review

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Samsung-Series-7-Gamer-700G7A-Notebook.66523.0.html

Read this about the graphics cards 6970M and GTX 580M (rebadged to GTX 675M)

http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-6970M.43077.0.html

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-580M.56636.0.html

Then come back and tell me you can get better specification for less than £1385 (this is what they sell for at most places right now) and then remove 20% vat off with the current Samsung promotion of £277 = £1108

I paid £1400 for it and still think it's a great deal (before this VAT Promo) and for £1108 it is an unreal price for such a good laptop and no other company can match it for price at this specifications. I did a lot of research before buying one and Devil laptops are junk and as others have told you the warranty may become a problem because it comes from Germany and they may in the near future go broke, is Samsung going broke in the near future ?

McCol do yourself a favour grab the Samsung in its current form and use the saved money to maybe add a SSD to it at a later date. You will thank us all that told you this, not one person that has purchased this laptop has been upset with it in any form apart from some wanting an SSD in it (I find the laptop fine with the 2 x 1Tb drives in and very happy with its speed and space available). It plays all the latest games BF3 etc at their top settings perfectly, I game with it on a 50" plasma and have a full desktop in another room, read my signiture for specifications of my desktop and you will see what I am comparing it too and it is great for gaming and highend laptop use. Just the screen will make you go wow when you turn it on and remember when the Ivy version of this laptop comes out it will probably be priced at £1599.99 as this one was when it hit the market... So ask yourself is that 5-10% speed difference worth £500 to you and in real world use you won't even notice it ?

ish1 · 6 Apr 2012 at 09:54

Well said Purgatory

It's the best gaming laptop on the market at that price point right now.

I'm just upset that I bought it before the VAT back deal...oh well, I'm still loving it though!

ish1 · 6 Apr 2012 at 10:14

just one quick question purgatory...have you tried overclocking the gpu using amd overdrive? is it worth doing?

Purgatory · 6 Apr 2012 at 12:38

ish1 said:
just one quick question purgatory...have you tried overclocking the gpu using amd overdrive? is it worth doing?

You can max it out on the overdrive mate and still runs fine I find and temps don't go crazy too. Just play with the overdrive with some game benchmarks to see if it is worth overclocking it for the game you play at the time, I keep it at stock mate because it is fast enough really, but very easy to overclock with the overdrive and just max the sliders and it worked fine on mine.

ish1 said:
Well said Purgatory

It's the best gaming laptop on the market at that price point right now.

I'm just upset that I bought it before the VAT back deal...oh well, I'm still loving it though!

You know it's funny that, when I saw that deal I still didn't feel too bad but it would have been nice of Samsung to offer the early adopters half the VAT back as a goodwill gesture from Samsung. Ohh well what is done is done and we can't turn back time and honestly having too much fun with it and enjoying it that much I feel I still got a great deal, but the VAT back would have made it such a good deal I probably would have ordered 2 of them one for home and one for work, in one way Samsung lost out on another laptop sale from me by doing that now and not doing it early on to the early adopters. This is why i'm telling people after a gaming or highend laptop to grab it while they can or later they will look back and think what a silly mistake they made not buying it when this offer was on. As you see all the owners of this laptop love it and can't be happier with it.

McCol · 6 Apr 2012 at 15:43

Thanks for the replies folks.
Confirmed what i was thinking really, the Samsung seems a no-brainer with the vat back offer, will order after the bank holiday.