For those with 120hz monitors.

[nitram100]

Quick question for those who have upgraded from 60hz monitors to 120hz monitors.

Does 45-50 frames per second on a 120hz monitor feel smoother than 45-50 frames per second on a 60hz monitor?

Or does the smoothness of a 120hz monitor only take effect when 120 fps is reached?

Cheers.

 

[Xire]

Quick question for those who have upgraded from 60hz monitors to 120hz monitors.

Does 45-50 frames per second on a 120hz monitor feel smoother than 45-50 frames per second on a 60hz monitor?

Or does the smoothness of a 120hz monitor only take effect when 120 fps is reached?

Cheers.

difference was noticeable to me even below 60fps - massively noticeable.

 

[Davepen]

I could barely notice.

Sure, spin round like a mad man and you may notice.

The major thing I did notice (going from a 24" 1920x1200 to a 27" 120hz 1920x1080) was the lack of pixels.

Even just dropping from x1200 to x1080 but increasing screen size to 27 meant the pixels are much larger and I really noticed the drop in quality.

I'm now instead going to a dell ultrasharp 27" at 2560x1440, even tho the increase in resolution will mean a drop in performance, I think I will prefer image quality and pixel density over 120hz. I'm running on an i5 2500k with gtx 680.

 

[nitram100]

Cheers for the replies. For someone like myself who can notice the different between 60hz and 75hz, would 120hz be a worthy upgrade from my existing 75hz LCD in terms of response time and smoothness?

 

[Davepen]

Cheers for the replies. For someone like myself who can notice the different between 60hz and 75hz, would 120hz be a worthy upgrade from my existing 75hz LCD in terms of response time and smoothness?

Possibly.
You only really gain advantages when you can display fps close to or above the refresh rate.

If you currently game with vsync on then the difference will be even less noticeable.

Would you be dropping screen resolution or changing screen size at all?

 

[as905]

yes 120hz is smoother.

 

[CreAtiv3]

Personally I cant tell the difference when below 60fps. I wouldn't have thought there would be either?...
Difference is night and day as soon as you go over 60 though and that's the point in getting a 120hz monitor.

 

[nitram100]

I currently game on a 19" 75hz LCD. I had a 60hz 23" Philips but gave it to my brother as 60hz drove me insane with how slow it felt.

I would be upgrading from 1440x900 to 1920x1080, I guess I may as well take a shot with the Samsung on sale at the moment for even if I don't notice much improvement over 75hz at least I will have a much bigger screen

 

[no_1_dave]

Went from 120hz samsung to a nice 27" 2560x1440
I wouldn't go back. TBH I can only barely tell the difference when playing BF3. Hardly noticeable.

 

[Lighters]

I notice the difference like night and day, more so on FPS games but generally games that require fluid mouse movement and quick turning/action.

 

[Davepen]

Went from 120hz samsung to a nice 27" 2560x1440
I wouldn't go back. TBH I can only barely tell the difference when playing BF3. Hardly noticeable.

I've just done this, yet to receive my new 2560x1440 (went for the Dell).

I did not like the image quality on the 27" 120hz panel, I think I will much prefer the higher resolution, and with vsync on and aa off, I should be able to run BF3 nicely on a 680.

 

[no_1_dave]

I've just done this, yet to receive my new 2560x1440 (went for the Dell).

I did not like the image quality on the 27" 120hz panel, I think I will much prefer the higher resolution, and with vsync on and aa off, I should be able to run BF3 nicely on a 680.

I went for the Catleap in that big Catleap thread.
I have been using the Nvidia control panel and setting v-sync to "adaptive". Works very nicely

 

[aatu]

I currently game on a 19" 75hz LCD. I had a 60hz 23" Philips but gave it to my brother as 60hz drove me insane with how slow it felt.

I would be upgrading from 1440x900 to 1920x1080, I guess I may as well take a shot with the Samsung on sale at the moment for even if I don't notice much improvement over 75hz at least I will have a much bigger screen

23", you say? Did it happen to be 1920x1080, too?

1920x1080 gives 2073600 pixels
while
1440x900 gives 1296000 pixels

Meaning with your 19" you needed only 63% of the horsepower you needed for the 23", to get same framerates. Now, 40% difference is quite noticeable, so are you sure it wasn't the performance hit that made it feel slower? Or did you already account to this, and leveled down the eye candy when playing with the 23", to get approximately same framerates?

Btw, if you do end up getting 120Hz, it will most likely be 1920x1080, so the same performance hit is something you should anticipate for.

PS. I've been playing with 120Hz CRT @1024x768 with GTS250, and with slightly older games (like first F.E.A.R.) it's pure awesome. But with newer games the eye candy takes the performance hit (even with 1024x768), and the smoothness is gone. So make sure your gear is up for the task, if playing mostly newer games.

edit:
Actually, you should try playing with sufficiently older games, where you can be sure your gear can give full framerates on both resolutions.

 

[pingu666]

biggest difference i notice between mine and my dads near identical pcs is he has screen tear issues in a bunch of games, i have pretty much none

i know we can turn vsync on, but he has some games without that option :/ and some which hate vsync and they without option too

 

[Shadz]

I upgraded from a 60hz to a 120hz monitor in my sig and the difference was MASSIVE.

I noticed it straight away from the very 1st time i looked at the login screen on Windows7
I noticed how much sharper the picture was compared to my 60hz monitor.

In BF3 the game play is so so smooth, i could not go back to a 60hz monitor now.
If this broke for some silly reason i would have to buy another 1 straight away.

 

[Axeia]

I noticed it straight away from the very 1st time i looked at the login screen on Windows7

Isn't that just due to a dimmed/old backlight or the difference between matte/glossy monitors? Picture could still look sharp at 1Hz.

 

[no_1_dave]

I upgraded from a 60hz to a 120hz monitor in my sig and the difference was MASSIVE.

I noticed it straight away from the very 1st time i looked at the login screen on Windows7
I noticed how much sharper the picture was compared to my 60hz monitor.

In BF3 the game play is so so smooth, i could not go back to a 60hz monitor now.
If this broke for some silly reason i would have to buy another 1 straight away.

Your old monitor must have been rubbish because 120Hz doesn't add to the sharpness. It rust enables new frames to appear twice as fast. A lot of what people say about 120Hz is placebo and like yourself, they want to justify their purchase. The only thing I have ever noticed with 120Hz over 60Hz is screen tearing doesn't exist (most of the time) and if you take a screen shot in a fast paced game it is clearer because instead of a blur you get a solid frame. Playing BF3 the mouse does feel a little smoother but then that maybe because on my 120Hz monitor I was getting 100fps and now on my new 1440p monitor I get 60fps (I need vsync now)

 

[Lighters]

I am sorry but I disagree about what you are saying about it being a placebo for a lot of people.

I have never noticed any sharpness difference myself but even testing it right now yet again, going from 120 down to 60hz I can visually see cursor trailing and the small blur/burn behind it, I can also feel the difference (This is just on windows)

I went over my friends house the other month who bought a 120hz monitor and sat behind him watching him play League of Legends and alt tab to his browser, I told him to check if he had 120hz enabled as it seemed slow and blury. (He was running 60hz) rofl

Granted it is easier to identify when going from 120 > 60hz but I have been to LAN events where I have had weeks between using monitors etc and its still apparent how different and how much more difficult it is to adapt going from 120hz to what seems completely motion blured 60hz

 

[no_1_dave]

I agree with you to an extent, that's why I said "a lot of what people are saying is placebo" not all of it. An example is if I drag a window full of writing & whiz it around the screen, on my 120Hz monitor the writing isn't blurred, on my 60Hz one it is. Also as you rightly say, the mouse pointer has more of a trail on my 60Hz. I do however feel people are greatly exaggerating the difference. People are saying they could "never go back" and they notice how sharper the screen is etc. In reality all the 120Hz panels are TN panels so the screens are not as sharp and the IQ isn't as good as an IPS 60Hz panel. It really is 6 of one and half a dozen of the other when it comes to 120Hz vs 60Hz. They both have their place and hardly anyone will notice any tangible difference.

 

[Lighters]

well I can agree with what you said above although if you are strictly a true fps guy like quakelive etc games at that pace then you will notice a huge difference. Havent owned an IPS yet as the lack of hz has put me off but 1 day