How much longer can Apple ignore RSAP?

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I'm starting to wonder how much longer Apple can ignore the bluetooth Remote SIM Access Profile (RSAP) in their phones. Thus far they've shown zero interest in permitting such connectivity.

For those who don't know, this profile allows another device to connect 'directly' to the SIM card in a phone, effectively functioning as if the SIM card had been removed from the phone and placed into the other device.

The major car manufacturers are moving inexorably towards high-end phone system which use this protocol. The car itself effectively has a mobile phone built into it and this connects to your handset via RSAP to allow it to use your SIM card. The first advantage of this system is that your phone can be put into a very low power state as all it needs to keep powered are the SIM card itself and the bluetooth connectivity, the modem can be shut down, thus it uses hardly any power. The second advantage is that, with direct access to the SIM card, the car can do more than just make and receive calls, but can also use text messaging and data.

With access to data via your SIM card and network plan, some of these new systems are leveraging this to provide Internet connectivity for various systems in the car, such as Google maps and traffic info for SatNav or general internet access via WiFi hotspots.

It's a great system but relies totally on the handset supporting RSAP, which no iPhones do. If, as I suspect will happen, more and more of the car manufacturers go this route, can Apple really hold out in not supporting this protocol?

My next car will have the choice between an RSAP system such as the one above, with loads of connectivity and useful features, or a basic bluetooth system with none of that. If Apple persist in refusing to support RSAP, I'll be faced with the choice of either losing this functionality or changing to another phone.
 
I thought RSAP was being depreciated - VW have moved away from using it haven't they?

Does Android even support it?
 
Seems like you can do it already if you jailbreak so I don't think it will be a issue. How many people have this in their car at the moment and how many will over the next 5 years. 2%, maybe 5%. Its not really worth them worrying about it at the moment. There will be a million other things that phones can include to interface with other devices, you have to prioritise.

Edit: As with a lot of technologies, if it is not widely adopted fairly quickly then another technology will soon come along that is better.
 
I thought RSAP was being depreciated - VW have moved away from using it haven't they?

I doubt it - all new model Audis are being equipped with RSAP connectivity for their systems, together with use of the internet connection for Google, WiFi hotspots and so forth.
 
Well I've been driving for forty years without these features so it doesn't even feature in my list of priorities. Besides I doubt my Nokia 3310 will be able to take advantage of it anyway. :D
 
I cannot connect my Galaxy Nexus to my VW Premium prep.....at least not without rooting the phone and paying for an rSAP app to make it work.

It seems that unless you have a Nokia, you are out of luck.
 
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