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Geforce 560Ti 448 vs 570

GnollinZ

GnollinZ

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Hi guys,

Looking for a new GFX card to complete my new rig upgrade.

My max budget is £250 - I want to be able to play BF3, Skyrim etc on ultra settings :D Must be Nvidia and EVGA preferred as I want to take advantage of their 90-day step up program.

I've been looking at these two cards:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-172-EA&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=1854

and

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-170-EA&groupid=701&catid=1914&subcat=

From what I can see the only difference is that the 570 has 32 additional CUDA cores. Is it worth the extra?

I'll probably step-up to a 660 or 670 card once they are released, so paying extra for the 570 would just mean that the step-up cost is less, but if the card is performing well enough then I may just stick with it.
 
Why don't you just wait that little bit longer for the 66/70?

Latest rumours put the 6 series, what ~15 days away.

Both cards mentioned are terribly overpriced at the moment when you take into account that you can get much faster performance out of AMD's cheaper 7850's with some oc'ing.
 
Not being funny there Tom but I can't see any Kepler card costing what the 560 448 and 570 do.

If they do then they will have to make the 560ti and 570 cheaper than they already are, and IMO they are very cheap for the performance they offer.

I did hear that there won't be a cheap Kepler card and I can believe it tbh.
 
ALXAndy said:
Not being funny there Tom but I can't see any Kepler card costing what the 560 448 and 570 do.

If they do then they will have to make the 560ti and 570 cheaper than they already are, and IMO they are very cheap for the performance they offer.

I did hear that there won't be a cheap Kepler card and I can believe it tbh.
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Yeah, this is my thinking too. I've already waited a long time on Ivy Bridge, and EVGA's step-up program offers a safety net if the 660/670 cards are released at an affordable price. As the step-up program takes the original purchase price when calculating the step-up cost it doesn't matter if the 560/570s drop hugely in price.

I'm not wanting to get into the trap of constantly waiting on the next big thing :D
 
Thing is a 660 would fall right into the line of fire with the 560ti and 570. And Kepler wafers are like rocking horse poo. Why deliberately sell yourself short of wafers just to provide a card that performs evenly with one you probably already have absolutely loads of?

If you step down from the 680 there is a big gap between it and the 580. All they need is one card to sit in there, and then use the 5 series as the logical step down.

In the real world and on planet earth no one cares about a number slapped on a card. All they care about is price and performance and the only hole in Nvidia's armoury right now is the one between the 680 and 580. Fill that hole? Kepler can remain high end, exclusive, and most importantly for a greed based corporation? expensive.
 
Yup - they need to drop the 580 to around £200 and bring the 670 in at £300.

I think the 660 series is going to be pretty much the 580, performance-wise.
 
Wouldn't put it past Nvidia to label a few Fermi cards with the number 6. They've done it throughout history tbh. GTS 240 was really a 9600GT of sorts. GTS 250 was really a 9800GTX, which was a 8800GTX and so on.
 
I've gone for the EVGA 570 - apparently can be overclocked to quite an extent from stock. Will more than likely use EVGA's Step Up program to go to a 660/670 at some point in the near future.
 
this thread seems to be trying to use 660 and 670 interchangeably - 670 is a cut down GK104 (e.g. failed 680's that need 1 SM fused off to be able to work at all), 670 is coming out in the next month or so because they do have plenty of failed 680's to have a go at still cashing in on

GTX660 is GK106 - it's an entirely different chip, it's smaller for a start and thus cheaper to produce and has probably had design lessons from 680 applied to it to improve yeilds... however it won't be out in the next month or so, I would say July at the earliest
 
andybird123 said:
this thread seems to be trying to use 660 and 670 interchangeably - 670 is a cut down GK104 (e.g. failed 680's that need 1 SM fused off to be able to work at all), 670 is coming out in the next month or so because they do have plenty of failed 680's to have a go at still cashing in on

GTX660 is GK106 - it's an entirely different chip, it's smaller for a start and thus cheaper to produce and has probably had design lessons from 680 applied to it to improve yeilds... however it won't be out in the next month or so, I would say July at the earliest
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Hi there

The GTX 560 and 570 series are staying around, they won't be replaced until at least September ish time. :)

670 replaces 580, similar price and 570 is remaining with 560 for potentially upto a further 6 months. :)
 
andybird123 said:
this thread seems to be trying to use 660 and 670 interchangeably - 670 is a cut down GK104 (e.g. failed 680's that need 1 SM fused off to be able to work at all), 670 is coming out in the next month or so because they do have plenty of failed 680's to have a go at still cashing in on

GTX660 is GK106 - it's an entirely different chip, it's smaller for a start and thus cheaper to produce and has probably had design lessons from 680 applied to it to improve yeilds... however it won't be out in the next month or so, I would say July at the earliest
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I realise that - I wasn't trying to say that the 660 and 670 series are the same, just that they will likely be out within EVGA's 90 day step-up period.

Unfortunately from what Gibbo said it looks like the 660 series won't be out until after the 90 days is over, so it's a step-up to the 670 or 680 then...
 
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