Office Terror Alert Raised.

lol at London, literally shut it down because some nutter does not want to live.

Shut down all of London, really? They issued a 300m cordon around the building to protect people's safety. Last time I checked London was bigger than that. For such a patriot you should really get yourself acquainted with the size of Britain's major cities.

It's quite a busy area with tourists and office workers, shutting down the two stations in the area and diverting the buses makes sure the area doesn't fill up with crowds of people while the Police are trying to manage a dangerous situation. When someone has nothing to lose and wants to die, I think it's quite important to protect people's safety, not blindly allow thousands of people to flood the area.
 
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Nope, saw it. Anyone know what type of vest he's wearing? Looking through the SO/CO19 pics, I haven't seen one similar. The pics I'm looking at, the armed police have a few more breast pockets and zip up the middle.

Edit: Been checking many more pictures... I cannot find another picture of an SO/CO19 officer using a chest holster. However, google image search "SAS task force black" and "SAS task force knight" and see how popular chest holsters are with both British and American special forces.

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Looks like a 2 eye hole balaclava.

I think far more likely to be a specialist from a different service. They simply strap on a different kevlar, or some of them just use a velcro sticker where the 'police' sign goes.
 
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Looks like a 2 eye hole balaclava.

I think far more likely to be a specialist from a different service. They simply strap on a different kevlar, or some of them just use a velcro sticker where the 'police' sign goes.

Cool, what's the source on that picture?

That's not kevlar he's strapping on. It's a utility vest. And it's unique from what I've seen of SO/CO19 pictures so far. And he's in civvies. And balaclava'd. And using a chest mounted holster. If he is SRR or other special forces, he can just as easily stick a police badge on his own vest.

This picture was taken when police shot Mark Saunders (the solicitor who was waving a shotgun about a few years ago). Note SFO's without masks and two gentlemen who seem to be "advising" and covered up.

Any time I've seen a bomb threat or hostage situation, these guys pop up all the time. There's barely a few. They stick out like sore thumbs. Then they're gone.
 
There's barely a few. They stick out like sore thumbs. Then they're gone.

He,he sounds a lot more badass than it probably is, but it still looks like a crazy job from my p.o.v

I'm sure with these types of situations, with the olympics, public eye etc you just call the othoritiy on situations like these and let them tell you what to do / not to do.
 
The company whose offices the guy trashed are involved in a HGV training scam from what I can gather.
Probably lost everything just trying to get himself a job :mad:
 
lol at London, literally shut it down because some nutter does not want to live.

Shut down all of London, really? They issued a 300m cordon around the building to protect people's safety. Last time I checked London was bigger than that. For such a patriot you should really get yourself acquainted with the size of Britain's major cities.

It's quite a busy area with tourists and office workers, shutting down the two stations in the area and diverting the buses makes sure the area doesn't fill up with crowds of people while the Police are trying to manage a dangerous situation. When someone has nothing to lose and wants to die, I think it's quite important to protect people's safety, not blindly allow thousands of people to flood the area.

Come on cheets, explain yourself. Stop running away and hiding every time you get pulled up on making a silly comment.
 
SO/CO19 are the SFO's. Any other officer authorised to carry a firearm is an AFO.

Not quite. CO19 have both - AFOs crew the ARVs and provide static protection at key locations, SFOs are used in tactical teams (although they'll also be used for other roles). There's also the Diplomatic Protection Group, as well as various other teams and units which the MPS prefers to keep out of the public spotlight.

In any case, just because some different equipment is being used doesn't mean it's special forces or anything like that.
 
The company whose offices the guy trashed are involved in a HGV training scam from what I can gather.
Probably lost everything just trying to get himself a job :mad:

Interesting

Come on cheets, explain yourself. Stop running away and hiding every time you get pulled up on making a silly comment.

He was just being sensationalist, any idiot can tell this, it's the person that questioned his nationalist integrity that is the fool grasping at straws.
 
Oh I know this, it's about time he started standing by his comments rather than stupid hit and runs. I thought the patriot comment would at least trigger some response out of him but cheets never fails to disappoint.
 
Not quite. CO19 have both - AFOs crew the ARVs and provide static protection at key locations, SFOs are used in tactical teams (although they'll also be used for other roles). There's also the Diplomatic Protection Group, as well as various other teams and units which the MPS prefers to keep out of the public spotlight.

In any case, just because some different equipment is being used doesn't mean it's special forces or anything like that.

Well wiki'd, but not quite. If you read the various articles, CO19 are the SFOs like I said (the clue is in the full name of Central Operations Specialist Firearms Command). They provide training to other AFOs. CO19 are the only ones that receive advanced training that make them SFOs. The DPG are AFOs. Like any other section not CO19. Yes CO19 are used in tactical teams, but they're not AFOs. They simply assist them a lot.

Anyway, I've been doing a bit of googlefu (since it was look up that stuff or waste time on Reddit). I was wrong earlier when I said the guy was wearing a utility vest. It's a plate carrier but without the cummerbund. That's why I mistook it for a vest. And yet, it's still unique to any other picture I've seen of SO/CO19 body armour. Here's another picture from today, similar vest without the cummerbund. Small, like the first one I commented on. Not like any picture so far I've seen of SO/CO19 which are larger ballistic vests, or even the vests the RUC/PSNI use. Pictures from when they were hunting Raoul Moat had guys in civvies, but using SO/CO19 vests. Some said it was the SAS, but then the SAS don't have powers of arrest and it wasn't a terrorist incident, so who knows. But they weren't wearing balaclavas (nor was any single one of them using a chest holster) so I'm assuming they were police. And as I mentioned Task Force Black earlier, British special forces seem to like picking and choosing what kit they want for the task at hand. And plate carriers appear to be uniquely military from what I've seen so far.

But there was someone in SO/CO19 gear wearing a three hole! YAY! Who seems to be directing the action. While the chap beside him isn't wearing a balaclava at all. Nor does it appear that the guy further inside is either.
 
Shut down all of London, really? They issued a 300m cordon around the building to protect people's safety. Last time I checked London was bigger than that. For such a patriot you should really get yourself acquainted with the size of Britain's major cities.

It's quite a busy area with tourists and office workers, shutting down the two stations in the area and diverting the buses makes sure the area doesn't fill up with crowds of people while the Police are trying to manage a dangerous situation. When someone has nothing to lose and wants to die, I think it's quite important to protect people's safety, not blindly allow thousands of people to flood the area.

Never been but the it was breaking news on 5live and was all over the internet and twitter, when it was just some guy chucking a filing cabinet out a window, the police went OTT, all that for one man, what if it was an actually terrorist attack and it was planned one with delayed dominoe attacks, all those police/ambulances at one seen would be swallowed up.

should have just sent in a few coppers to spark him out.

The company whose offices the guy trashed are involved in a HGV training scam from what I can gather.
Probably lost everything just trying to get himself a job :mad:

That is the "city" for you
 
Well wiki'd, but not quite. If you read the various articles, CO19 are the SFOs like I said (the clue is in the full name of Central Operations Specialist Firearms Command). They provide training to other AFOs. CO19 are the only ones that receive advanced training that make them SFOs. The DPG are AFOs. Like any other section not CO19. Yes CO19 are used in tactical teams, but they're not AFOs. They simply assist them a lot.

I think you're getting confused yourself. CO19, as a unit, encompasses both AFOs and SFOs. The very 'article' you've linked to states that.

As for the equipment, you're reading far too much into it. It's far more likely they're police than it being some kind of secret involvement by the military or some other special forces unit. The differing equipment means very little.
 
Never been but the it was breaking news on 5live and was all over the internet and twitter, when it was just some guy chucking a filing cabinet out a window, the police went OTT, all that for one man, what if it was an actually terrorist attack and it was planned one with delayed dominoe attacks, all those police/ambulances at one seen would be swallowed up.

should have just sent in a few coppers to spark him out.

He had gas cannisters strapped to his body and was threatening to blow himself up... I think the situation needed a better response than to send in a couple of coppers to 'spark him out'.

I very much doubt that one event like this consumed all of the emergency services' resource in that area. It's already very heavily policed to start off with and it is a highly sensitive area which will most likely be the target of another more serious attack in the future but obviously all of this is superfluous when all you need is a unit of cops to punch terrorists in the face ;)
 
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