Tourists Banned From Dutch Cannabis Cafes

Judgeneo said:
Question:

If cannabis was legal in the country, and regulated in the same way alcohol currently is, would you try it? Bare in mind you can take it in multiple forms (eating, smoking, rubbing creams, pills etc..)
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Yes, probably. Not too keen on the idea of smoking though.
 
PermaBanned said:
Yes, probably. Not too keen on the idea of smoking though.
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It's really a nice feeling once you get over the initial coughing from the first few times (if at all).

* To give some quick advice and not to touch on it too much: I wouldn't recommend eating it for your first time. Also don't mix with alcohol else you're going to have a bad time.
 
Moses said:
Examples?
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That's what Jane Buckingham was threatened with by a judge. It's what the law allows and that is inherently wrong. Any law restricting private activity in such a way is inherently wrong. It's abduction. Look at the case I responded to, a man with a serious medical condition sentenced to 16 months for self medicating.
 
Judgeneo said:
Question:


If cannabis was legal in the country, and regulated in the same way alcohol currently is, would you try it? Bare in mind you can take it in multiple forms (eating, smoking, rubbing creams, pills etc..)
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It's highly unlikely I would, it just holds no interest for me.

Moses said:
An instance from fourteen years ago (which didn't result in a custodial sentence) - anything contemporary?

And which case you responded to?
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I think Energize is referring to the case that StonedPenguin linked to here.
 
I suffer from Chron's disease. If medical marijuana was legal I could regulate it without having to take drugs which have been shown to cause infertility and stomach cancer in some cases.
 
dirtychinchilla said:
I suffer from Chron's disease. If medical marijuana was legal I could regulate it without having to take drugs which have been shown to cause infertility and stomach cancer in some cases.
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I watched one documentary where it was legal for Europeans to take a flight to Amsterdam and get it prescribed by a doctor there. This is the only place I've heard this done, but the woman I'm talking about got rejected because she'd never tried prescribed medicine... so it might be worth looking in to. If I remember correctly, you can legally have something like 3 months supply on you at all times under EU law... but I'm no lawyer.

Here's closest I could find to the original documentary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLlhA09Q6SM

The one I'm on about was focused on the woman at around 6 minutes.

Bloke at 6:57.
 
Moses said:
Any summary/info on the case, other than cannabisforautism.wordpress.com? The case citation, for example? (That's not directly at you, thanks for identifying the post).

The page seems to indicate that it's because the CPS argued that he was growing it for profit. Mere possession of small quantities not being enough to give someone a 16 month custodial sentence.
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The problem lies in that he has been convicted for it before, and obviously if you keep breaking the law you start getting punished more severely each time.

However, the guy has been using it to control the pain related to a disease, so who can blame him for wanting to do that over and over again?

The other thing is, rather than go a buy it from unknown sources, not knowing where the money is going, and, he knows that his own stuff is exactly what he wants. Better that than trying to control pain with an unknown quality. Some of the stuff sprayed onto cannabis to increase its weight is horrible. There are cases of folk using glass dust, because that looks like the THC crystals on it. But that leads to bleeding lungs, not nice.

It's a real shame. Poor guy.

Energize; Thaks for the info on what the nuremburg judges had to say about other judges. Never knew, makes complete sense to me tho'.
 
I personally think it's time they made the use of Cannabis legal, and regulated its use. It's been proven that it is not harmful, and it'll generate so much money for the government, they wouldn't know what to do with it all!

It's medicinal uses are becoming more and more obvious, and with more states in the US and frankly other countries realising its uses and potential, it's only a matter of time...

Not sure why they've decided to stop tourists using it though... Levels of tourism will plummet.
 
Moses said:
I'm no expert, but 56, then 42 plants, for personal use, sounds somewhat excessive...
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All relative, They could have been 56 clones that were flowered immediately without a vegative period which would yield the same as say only 4 plants with a long vegative period. Light plays the part, not plant numbers.

Also, The most effective way of medicating with Cannabis is to turn it into an Oil (primarily pre-done for MS patients in most US states), to make this Oil you need a lot of yield.
 
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steve-h said:
I watched one documentary where it was legal for Europeans to take a flight to Amsterdam and get it prescribed by a doctor there. This is the only place I've heard this done, but the woman I'm talking about got rejected because she'd never tried prescribed medicine... so it might be worth looking in to. If I remember correctly, you can legally have something like 3 months supply on you at all times under EU law... but I'm no lawyer.

Here's closest I could find to the original documentary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLlhA09Q6SM

The one I'm on about was focused on the woman at around 6 minutes.

Bloke at 6:57.
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im pretty sure that loophole got closed
 
Moses said:
Citation?
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Try and prove that Cannabis is harmful and you'll find someone that will deliver an article or some sort of scientific research that disproves it.

Paranoia - It's illegal, it's pretty obvious why this "side-effect" happens.
Damaging lungs - Scientific Studies have proven that in fact Cannabis use leads to better lung capacity due to users having to hold their breath for periods of time. Any damage to the lungs will be because the user is smoking with Tobacco as well as Cannabis.
Mental Health Issues - There is no evidence for it to increase the risk of mental illness in the present or the future
 
I'm no expert, but 56 plants... then 42 plants... for personal use, sounds somewhat excessive...
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Not really, yes it 'sounds' excessive but in reality there are reasons for this. Which you (and the law) would not understand. It is 'exactly' the kind of ignorance that, when read off a sheet of paper leads to stupid conclusions. (no offence meant)


On the other hand, he could have had 56 MASSIVE plants, yielding a ridiculous amount of cannabis...
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lol, 56 massive plants inside someones home, that would have to be one MASSIVE home xD


Edit: I've lived and worked in Holland and seen it all from small grows to industrial scale. I could talk about all the things I've seen there about it, but being illegal in the country and the family friendly rule of the forum it's probably best not to :(
 
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