HOLY CAPTAIN KIRK!!! The deflector dish is real!

Is This a European venture or is it just because the Yanks want it away from their shores if things go **** up

I best dust of the Crowbar just in-case :D
 
Zefan said:
Heating nothing to the point where it is no longer a liquid but a gas?

What? How does that even work?

:edit: Yeah I know the article says it's not nothing, but also says they haven't proved it's "something" yet. If they don't know if it is or not, how can they say that this laser will "boil" it? Ridiculous article, and I usually like the Bellylaugh.
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If the laser boils it, it exists. Hence the experiment... or did you not get that point? :p
 
"Contrary to popular belief, a vacuum is not devoid of material but in fact fizzles with tiny mysterious particles that pop in and out of existence, but at speeds so fast that no one has been able to prove they exist."

eh?
 
Zefan said:
Heating nothing to the point where it is no longer a liquid but a gas?

What? How does that even work?

:edit: Yeah I know the article says it's not nothing, but also says they haven't proved it's "something" yet. If they don't know if it is or not, how can they say that this laser will "boil" it? Ridiculous article, and I usually like the Bellylaugh.
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Even if you have a vacuum aren't there particles etc constantly moving through matter anyway? so it'd never be entirely empty.

can't remember the name of them but that's why I'm no scientist! :p
 
They seem to have left some of the image out.

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feedtheram said:
"Contrary to popular belief, a vacuum is not devoid of material but in fact fizzles with tiny mysterious particles that pop in and out of existence, but at speeds so fast that no one has been able to prove they exist."

eh?
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Because the mathematical models for quantum mechanics and the current theories regarding space time suggest these particles exist - The problem being that the particles formed, electrons and positrons (anti-matter electrons) have opposite electric charges so attract each other, annihilating each other almost instantly.

The high energy laser will generate a strong electric field and magnetic field at the focus point which in theory will prevent the particles colliding and annihilating each other, allowing them to be observed, proving their existence.

You might want to get the information directly from the projects website instead of a via a journo ill-equipped to understand the relevant science - http://www.extreme-light-infrastructure.eu/index.php. The objectives of the facility are listed in the PDF downloadable from the page: http://www.extreme-light-infrastructure.eu/ELI-scientific-case_2_4.php
 
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feedtheram said:
"Contrary to popular belief, a vacuum is not devoid of material but in fact fizzles with tiny mysterious particles that pop in and out of existence, but at speeds so fast that no one has been able to prove they exist."

eh?
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This. It's not true until its been proven.

I don't care what the Maths says.

Sounds awesome though... How on earth are they going to contain this ultra lasers point if it can rip through a vacuum...

kd
 
King Damager said:
This. It's not true until its been proven.

I don't care what the Maths says.

Sounds awesome though... How on earth are they going to contain this ultra lasers point if it can rip through a vacuum...

kd
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Multiple beams of lower power all focussed through a single focus point. The electromagnetic field intensity of the individual beams won't be a problem to handle.
 
Oz!asM!dwinter said:
Because the mathematical models for quantum mechanics and the current theories regarding space time suggest these particles exist - The problem being that the particles formed, electrons and positrons (anti-matter electrons) have opposite electric charges so attract each other, annihilating each other almost instantly.
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Actually quantum mechanics predicts nothing of the sort, this is an example of quantum field theory at work.
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King Damager said:
This. It's not true until its been proven.

I don't care what the Maths says.

Sounds awesome though... How on earth are they going to contain this ultra lasers point if it can rip through a vacuum...

kd
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Well it sort of has. Modes of the vacuum field can cause things such as the casimir effect, which is directly observable on the 'real' scale. Numerous effects have been observed which can only be explained through quantum field theories.
 
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