Surface-to-air missiles for the Olympics

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Surface-to-air missiles could be deployed at five sites across London, as preparations begin for a major Olympics security exercise.

The Lexington Building in Tower Hamlets and the Fred Wigg Tower in Waltham Forest, both in east London, are sites.

Also named are Blackheath Common and Oxleas Wood, both in south-east London; William Girling Reservoir in Enfield; and Barn Hill in Epping Forest.

It comes as details were given of a major exercise taking place this week.

Exercise Olympic Guardian is being held on land, sea and air in the London and Weymouth areas between 2 and 10 May.

It will see a wide range of capabilities rehearsed.

The Ministry of Defence has stressed that the government has not yet decided to deploy ground-based air defence systems during the Games.

Brian Whelan, a resident of one of the east London estates, said firing the missiles "would shower debris across the east end of London".

Standing joint commander General Sir Nick Parker said the decision on the missiles would be taken "at the very highest political level".

Referring to this week's exercise he said the military advice to the government "will depend on the success of that test".

Defence Secretary Philip Hammond said: "Support for the Olympic Games will be an important task for defence in 2012 and this exercise is about pushing our people and our systems to the limit to ensure that we are ready for the challenge.

"The majority of this exercise will be played out in full view of the public and I hope that it will have a secondary effect of reassuring the British people that everything possible is being done to ensure this will be a safe and secure Olympic and Paralympic Games."

Now obviously not knowing what other nations have done at past ceremonies with regards anti-terrorism measures, I'm not sure if this type of story is OTT, but is this really a requirement that is needed?

Do you think SAM sites should be deployed?
Is someone spending too much time worrying about this?
 
this has happened previously for other big events worldwide and will happen again, it's a non-story that's being sensationalised.

I believe there will also be two ships in the Thames at various points "just in case". I'd rather know these things are there should they be needed than not.
 
With out giving too much away, they've already been deployed.

There will be more military personel in London over the olympic period than have been posted to Afghanistan to date, just to give you some sense of scale.
 
Ah well, just as long as the plane wreckage lands on some Labour voters, and doesn't disturb the Olympics, I'm sure no-one will mind.

If they end up firing, it will be in response to something more of a threat than debris.

Would you rather they just let what ever possible attack was about to take place happen?
 
this has happened previously for other big events worldwide and will happen again, it's a non-story that's being sensationalised.

I believe there will also be two ships in the Thames at various points "just in case". I'd rather know these things are there should they be needed than not.

It's probably easier than having fighter jets constantly in the air, lol. I'm sure China had loads of security measures in place, we just didn't hear about them because their government's less open.

I think it's a non-story, tbh.

I get the idea it's one of those "big scary monster" stories from the media to make everyone scared.

It's as I thought that other countries have done this in the past, just the media over hyping things.
 
China had them for last olympics.

Its the last line of defence from what I heard, so planes in the air etc, but say a mass attack came of multiple planes from loads of directions they may need some backup to the planes.

Personally I wouldnt mind a set of AA missiles just round the corner from my house, the tiny chance of fallout if they were actually needed is probably a hell of a lot less nasty than some plane(s) crashing into original targets which would be selected for maximum damage.
 
Yet another example of how mad the world as become and how stupid our olympic bid was, the missiles will never be fired the military personel never used we might as well have just filled the olympic stadium with fivers are set it a blaze.

The secuirty myth is the governments greatest invention since global warming allowing them to pass intrusive unnecessary laws and raise taxes but all in the name of our 'saftey'.
 
Yet another example of how mad the world as become and how stupid our olympic bid was, the missiles will never be fired the military personel never used we might as well have just filled the olympic stadium with fivers are set it a blaze.

The secuirty myth is the governments greatest invention since global warming allowing them to pass intrusive unnecessary laws and raise taxes but all in the name of our 'saftey'.

lol, and you KNOW FOR A FACT?, no one thinks a terrorist event will happen till it does then Capt Hindsignt swoops in once again.
 
Yet another example of how mad the world as become and how stupid our olympic bid was, the missiles will never be fired the military personel never used we might as well have just filled the olympic stadium with fivers are set it a blaze.

The secuirty myth is the governments greatest invention since global warming allowing them to pass intrusive unnecessary laws and raise taxes but all in the name of our 'saftey'.

:rolleyes:
 
We spend all the money developing and making the stuff so we may as well put it to use. Cosmetically hopefully and not practically.

If something did happen then there would be an outcry.
 
Ah well, just as long as the plane wreckage lands on some Labour voters, and doesn't disturb the Olympics, I'm sure no-one will mind.

:D

I think I've worked out some of the sites they're thinking of (I drive/walk around b'heath a lot). Doesn't really bother me. I still find it sad and a shame that we have to live in a world where we have to take such precautions though....
 
We are having to do a lot to prepare for the olympics. Busy times ahead and makes support much more interesting (difficult).
 
lol, and you KNOW FOR A FACT?, no one thinks a terrorist event will happen till it does then Capt Hindsignt swoops in once again.


I am willing to bet anything you like that those missiles will not be fired and that no solider will use his or her weapon to prevent a terrorist attack during the Olympic Games. The whole things is just security advisors, politicians and generals having a massive game of what if without anyone injecting any common sense. It's like health and saftey legislation on an epic scale.

The climate of fear that we have generated and endlessly fed in the last 10 years is incredible to see. If hosting the Olympics exposes the UK to anything even close to the level of risk these people seem to think it does then we should never have bid as it obviously puts the entire population of London at such a high level of risk we need to put the city on a virtual war footing.
 
These "SAM" sites should not be in the city...

Have them outside of the city to use on rogue aircraft before they get to densely populated areas. If the plane enters populated areas before S2A missiles can be used, planes should have been scrambled by this point to shoot them down*

*Based on a worse case scenario
 
I am willing to bet anything you like that those missiles will not be fired and that no solider will use his or her weapon to prevent a terrorist attack during the Olympic Games. The whole things is just security advisors, politicians and generals having a massive game of what if without anyone injecting any common sense. It's like health and saftey legislation on an epic scale.


Erm....that is why they are deployed.....it is a little concept called Deterrent. I know, let us have no security at all, advertise that fact and see what happens.....

The climate of fear that we have generated and endlessly fed in the last 10 years is incredible to see. If hosting the Olympics exposes the UK to anything even close to the level of risk these people seem to think it does then we should never have bid as it obviously puts the entire population of London at such a high level of risk we need to put the city on a virtual war footing.

Yeah, because we should stop living our lives simply because of potential threats......most people will not even know they are there.
 
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