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But u still need to be present in mumble in order to hear people speak
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But u still need to be present in mumble in order to hear people speak
OFC, but thats not what Inkursion and others are replying to is it?
This was the original post he picked on before spamming his offtopic nonsense about needing to use a mic is 'harder' MMOs:
GW1 PVP was winnable without me having to speak into a mic as well, I did get to rank 7 HA before quitting PVP. I was also in a top 100 GVG guild during prophecies and never needed to speak into a mic to win games.
Just for the info, what is your GW1 IGN?
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Again with the personal egotism and raging epenis hard-ons in a topic that has nothing to do with it...
Let's just safely say you are the exception to the rule when it comes to competing in tightly-coordinated games. Everyone else finds it quite normal to talk as well as listen on a VOIP server with their team-mates. You may be the equivalent of the footballer out on the right-wing that can put in a good cross when he needs to, but if you're not communicating with the rest of your team, surely your muteness is a weakness? Considering you've already publicly shared the fact you have some strange social phobia of talking on phones, could it maybe possibly be that we are the ones with the 'normal' opinion here, and you are the exception? Thus you don't need to constantly call into question our 'skill' or 'credentials'? Communicating and having a laugh on VOIP has been half the fun of gaming for me in the last decade. I'm not saying anything controversial by saying it'll be a significant part of GW2's play.
Let's just safely say you are the exception to the rule when it comes to competing in tightly-coordinated games. Everyone else finds it quite normal to talk as well as listen on a VOIP server with their team-mates. You may be the equivalent of the footballer out on the right-wing that can put in a good cross when he needs to, but if you're not communicating with the rest of your team, surely your muteness is a weakness? Considering you've already publicly shared the fact you have some strange social phobia of talking on phones, could it maybe possibly be that we are the ones with the 'normal' opinion here, and you are the exception? Thus you don't need to constantly call into question our 'skill' or 'credentials'? Communicating and having a laugh on VOIP has been half the fun of gaming for me in the last decade. I'm not saying anything controversial by saying it'll be a significant part of GW2's play.
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yea well my argument is that so long as your in mumble listening its perfectly fine. u dont need to use a mic for competitive pvp so long as u have someone else who is barking orders etc.
it works perfect for my Fifa 12 11v11 clan. only half of us use mics while the others just listen and it works perfect.
TBH Bhav i use to be like u i.e afraid to chat on a mobile phone/mic but got use to it when my first payed job was in a hospital working in a Ward answering calls from doctors/ patience relatives etc. Can u imagine the nightmare of doing that mate.
Makes chatting to some bloke about paying your bills or chatting on mumble look like childs play so i do understand you bhav.
Not talking on comms is teh suk. In my high high high end raiding guilds you were expected to talk on comms if you needed to.
Most of us loved to banter anyway but at bare minimum you had to be able to communicate information quickly while still performing actions on your char - This means talking on comms. There is no room to type in high end PvE content, there might be in GW1/GW2 but not in MMOs with traditional raid encounters.
Suffice to say be it PvP or PvE content those on comms who all speak will have a distinct advantage versus those who do not. Not speaking means you are either typing to relay information about that skill/person/incoming death from above or not typing, not speaking and not communicating it at all. The latter being worse than the former, but not by much.
Most of us loved to banter anyway but at bare minimum you had to be able to communicate information quickly while still performing actions on your char - This means talking on comms. There is no room to type in high end PvE content, there might be in GW1/GW2 but not in MMOs with traditional raid encounters.
Suffice to say be it PvP or PvE content those on comms who all speak will have a distinct advantage versus those who do not. Not speaking means you are either typing to relay information about that skill/person/incoming death from above or not typing, not speaking and not communicating it at all. The latter being worse than the former, but not by much.
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Top 100? Pretty average then? The top 10-25 were surely rocking comms to their advantage!
When I used to do competitive arena in WoW it would have been nigh on impossible to rank where we did rank without voice comms and both of us speaking. The level of coordination required without it is Skill level Asian....or cognitive.
Who says I need to waste my time typing if I'm not speaking? I dont need to issue commands to others to win the game.
Voice chat in PVE =
HtvIYRrgZ04
Enjoy your self proclaimed pro voice chat required guilds. It definitely wont be a requirement in GW2, and wont do anything to make you better than others.
And whats your GW1 IGN then? Everything else you say is referring to needing voice chat in WoW, same as Inkursion. I strongly doubt your GW1 PVP and PVE experience, sure you might have boight and played the game, but that means nothing if you only did it for a week or two.
Having spoken to lots of hardcore PVPers in GW1, I can assure you that some of the best players in the game wouldnt have even spoken into a mic once while playing a monk. When healing you dont need to say a word in the game, you just need to keep people alive and listen out for instructions.
Voice chat in PVE =
HtvIYRrgZ04
Enjoy your self proclaimed pro voice chat required guilds. It definitely wont be a requirement in GW2, and wont do anything to make you better than others.
And whats your GW1 IGN then? Everything else you say is referring to needing voice chat in WoW, same as Inkursion. I strongly doubt your GW1 PVP and PVE experience, sure you might have boight and played the game, but that means nothing if you only did it for a week or two.
Having spoken to lots of hardcore PVPers in GW1, I can assure you that some of the best players in the game wouldnt have even spoken into a mic once while playing a monk. When healing you dont need to say a word in the game, you just need to keep people alive and listen out for instructions.
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Any serious competitive contributing player.
If you are not contributing information then you are nothing but a meatbag hitting on things.
Not highlighting that incoming player/flank/elite ability when others have not seen it is criminal. Someone who can relay that information is worth more than you in the same player slot.
You cannot refute this point. Typing is a waste of time and a disadvantage. Not relaying information by speaking is a disadvantage. There are no advantages to not speaking, there are disadvantages - no matter how effective you think you are by not speaking you are mistaken.
And again your GW1 IGN / experience?
Erm, this is simply not something thats ever been needed / will be needed in GW1 / GW2?
So basically Sin Chase and Inkursion who are over rating voice communication in MMOs are both mainly WoW players right? Seems like it.
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We used voice for all our weekend events in Guild Wars. It was essential really to make sure everyone is performing the same steps. We would plan mobs, monk first obviously, timing who would need to KD Urgoz in which order etc.
IGN: Adlez Of Kryta
Really voice is not essential as I am sure you can get by with chat however voice is soooo much quicker. It's maybe more essential in GW2 now that your expected to be kiting. Try doing kiting and typing at the same time.
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Really voice is not essential as I am sure you can get by with chat however voice is soooo much quicker. It's maybe more essential in GW2 now that your expected to be kiting. Try doing kiting and typing at the same time.
Yea I'm not really questioning you Swarfega, I strongly doubt people like Inkursion / Sin chase's GW experience from their opinions on voice chat, and purely using nothing but 40 man raids in WoW as their only defense for why voice communication is needed in GW2.
Im pretty sure that neither of them even have a bambi emote.
Im pretty sure that neither of them even have a bambi emote.
I've played GW1 and WoW both, I don't see why it needs to be brought up constantly. What a bore. Many people who haven't played WoW will also attest to the value of voice comms. Maybe just get over your social awkwardness and stop casting aspersions? This is quite a silly and illogical discussion! Of course voice comms are quicker and easier, in all regards.
fyi my main point proving the necessity of voice-chat is 15-man team arrangements, not 40-man raiding. You're constantly calling me out for the wrong thing. Though I've also won LAN events and competed for sponsored teams in FPS games requiring 5,6 and 8 players. What does this have to do with anything? Voice comms are common sense. I stopped playing GW before any of the booster packs were even released. Does this mean my statements about voice comms are wrong? How inane! Stop continuously dragging epenis into it, nobody else feels the need to constantly bring it up. We all have enough qualification to make a common-sensical statement.
fyi my main point proving the necessity of voice-chat is 15-man team arrangements, not 40-man raiding. You're constantly calling me out for the wrong thing. Though I've also won LAN events and competed for sponsored teams in FPS games requiring 5,6 and 8 players. What does this have to do with anything? Voice comms are common sense. I stopped playing GW before any of the booster packs were even released. Does this mean my statements about voice comms are wrong? How inane! Stop continuously dragging epenis into it, nobody else feels the need to constantly bring it up. We all have enough qualification to make a common-sensical statement.
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This opinion is based on all the end game PvE content you have played in GW2....??
Umm, as someone that hasn't played any MMOs other than GW and GW2 i'd say that voice communication is pretty useful. I don't think anyone is saying that without it you're completely ineffective, but being able to 1. communicate and 2. do it without having to stop moving / attacking /playing gives you a significant advantage.
edit: Everyone in my Guild was saying that due to the movement mechanics it is essential for teamwork.
edit: Everyone in my Guild was saying that due to the movement mechanics it is essential for teamwork.
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I played Monk for several top 50 guilds, and while yes I did have a mic and gave tactical infomation to the person leading the team it wasn't necessary. Quite a lot of the people I played with often never spoke during the game. Having 8 people talk at once could result in a problem. It was nice but never required.
Me included, I played PvE only.
Odd for a game that really is most known for its excellent PvP and poor PvE
I've played them both too, but I really wouldnt say that my mere 2 months spent playing WoW gave me enough experience about the game.
When did you need to use voice communication to beat any part of GW1 PVE?
Me included, I played PvE only.
Odd for a game that really is most known for its excellent PvP and poor PvE
You still completed everything in PVE though, I'm sure you didnt need voice chat for any of it.
Sin Chase and Inkursion were also saying how important speaking into a mic is for PVP. Well I managed this and a full HoM without ever using a mic (could have gotten much more but quit PVP ages ago):
(My remaining titles are just useless boring grind - consumables, vanquishes, and reputation).
I'm simply curious how much time and effort Inkursion and Sin Chase have put into the game, surely they appear to know much more about it to make such sweeping statements that you need to use a mic to win.
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