Murdoch - unfit to have any role in the UK media

[stockhausen]

Can somebody explain why any of this is in the public's interest? ...

You can't see any point in investigating allegations of the most powerful media organisations in the country bribing public officials, attempting to influence politicians by offering favourable coverage in the most widely read rags and one allegedly vaguely respectable broadsheet, intercepting people's voice mails, suggestions of blackmail (prostitutes connected with Max Mosley) and generally behaving in a thoroughly corrupt and criminal manner

You are a very strange person

... Incidentally, when is Tom Watsons book, Dial M for Murdoch released, quite why he served on the committee is bizarre, I wasn't aware he was even writing a book when he took he seat.

Dial M for Murdoch has been available in hardback (£15) and Kindle (for an outrageous £11.99) forms from a well known tax-dodging e-tailer for a couple of weeks


ps - thanks to Freakbro & ubersonic for their support, I will wear it with pride

 

[Danthus]

Dial M for Murdoch has been available in hardback (£15) and Kindle (for an outrageous £11.99) forms from a well known tax-dodging e-tailer for a couple of weeks

So do you think he was impartial?

 

[Dave M]

You can't see any point in investigating allegations of the most powerful media organisations in the country bribing public officials, attempting to influence politicians by offering favourable coverage in the most widely read rags and one allegedly vaguely respectable broadsheet, intercepting people's voice mails, suggestions of blackmail (prostitutes connected with Max Mosley) and generally behaving in a thoroughly corrupt and criminal manner

You are a very strange person

The only strange thing is the mis-placed sense of importance given to politicians and journalists - give by people like you may I add.

Anyone who enjoys politics really should be kept far far away from it, we should select political candidates like we do juries and they certainly shouldn't do it for more than a few years.

 

[robgmun]

lolsuckstobeyouhausen

 

[Nitefly]

I find these responses a bit obnoxious tbh now. Stockhausen makes his posts in his own unique style which you might not agree with, but there's always a debate-worthy issue at heart.

I agree with this. It's an interesting topic and the 'lol' meme is getting pretty old.

 

[Castiel]

How can any individual be unfit to run a company that he created, turns a huge profit, is fantastically successful, and who owns most of the damned thing?

What are the Govt going to do, buy Newscorp?

Ridiculous nonsense, any corporation only has undue influence because the politicians succumb to it...they should get their own house in order before judging who is fit to run what.

 

[Robbo]

How can any individual be unfit to run a company that he created, turns a huge profit, is fantastically successful, and who owns most of the damned thing?

What are the Govt going to do, buy Newscorp?

Ridiculous nonsense.

Indeed. They are just trying to mock him and that's how they are choosing to do it.

Fools.

 

[Danthus]

How can any individual be unfit to run a company that he created, turns a huge profit, is fantastically successful, and who owns most of the damned thing?

What are the Govt going to do, buy Newscorp?

Ridiculous nonsense, any corporation only has undue influence because the politicians succumb to it...they shpuld get their own house in order before judging who is fit to run what.

Under his stewardship his employees accessed the voice mail of a murdered girl.

Making profits is not an indicator of being fit to run a business.

 

[sanaxe1]

How can any individual be unfit to run a company that he created, turns a huge profit, is fantastically successful, and who owns most of the damned thing?

What are the Govt going to do, buy Newscorp?

Ridiculous nonsense, any corporation only has undue influence because the politicians succumb to it...they should get their own house in order before judging who is fit to run what.

Ofcom has a duty under the Broadcasting Acts 1990 and 1996 to be satisfied that any person holding a broadcasting licence is, and remains, fit and proper to do so. if Ofcom finds with parliament, they can withdraw Rupert's charter to operate in the UK.

They have a say who is fit to run a corporation by the right of parliamentary democracy and the rule of law. Corporations aren't created by God, they are authorised by the government elected by the people. If those corporations or the people that lead them cease to act in the interest of the people their corporate charters can be revoked and their assets seized.
People like Rupert Murdoch need to be reminded that they aren't the new nobility.

 

[Castiel]

Under his stewardship his employees accessed the voice mail of a murdered girl.

Making profits is not an indicator of being fit to run a business.

Of course it is, it is the only indicator worth a damn. Did Rupert Murdoch personally break the law?

How do the Govt intend to remove Rupert Murdoch from Newscorp?

Are the guilty ones not those who give undue importance to the offered benefits and this allow that influence......

 

[Freakbro]

How can any individual be unfit to run a company that he created, turns a huge profit, is fantastically successful, and who owns most of the damned thing?

Very easily, if that company is based on illegal activities....Allen Stanford as one example of many.

What are the Govt going to do, buy Newscorp?

Since it's an american based company, the US authorities could dismantle it if so inclined.

Ridiculous nonsense, any corporation only has undue influence because the politicians succumb to it...they should get their own house in order before judging who is fit to run what.

lol

 

[Danthus]

Of course it is, it is the only indicator worth a damn. Did Rupert Murdoch personally break the law?

Personally, no, I don't think he did. However that does not relieve him of his corporate responsibility..

How do the Govt intend to remove Rupert Murdoch from Newscorp?

I am not sure they can, but the furore regarding this issue is likely to make shareholders sit up and take notice.

 

[dannyjo22]

I honestly haven't ever cared less about such a big news story.
I'm more interested in the police selling the information and doing the tapping than the people paying them for the service or information.

Just a political game where they have finally got some power to have a pop at him and his corporation. I also find this feigned outrage that they misled parliment, hilarious. Those ****s lie every time they open their mouth.

 

[buchtis]

How the hell is he not dead yet, he looks about a 100.

 

[PermaBanned]

How can any individual be unfit to run a company that he created, turns a huge profit, is fantastically successful, and who owns most of the damned thing?

What are the Govt going to do, buy Newscorp?

Ridiculous nonsense, any corporation only has undue influence because the politicians succumb to it...they should get their own house in order before judging who is fit to run what.

It's ridiculous that some people are under the impression that being in charge of such a large portion of western media comes with some responsibilities? That certain things are expected from such a position?

 

[craarc]

regardless of personal preference as to news outlets murdoc is as intertwined with corruption in his empire as anyone and he has been deemed unfit by a majority panel to run a news empire didnt we all know that allready.

 

[Castiel]

Ofcom has a duty under the Broadcasting Acts 1990 and 1996 to be satisfied that any person holding a broadcasting licence is, and remains, fit and proper to do so. if Ofcom finds with parliament, they can withdraw Rupert's charter to operate in the UK.

They have a say who is fit to run a corporation by the right of parliamentary democracy and the rule of law. Corporations aren't created by God, they are authorised by the government elected by the people. If those corporations or the people that lead them cease to act in the interest of the people their corporate charters can be revoked and their assets seized.
People like Rupert Murdoch need to be reminded that they aren't the new nobility.

The Govt cannot remove someone from owning their own company. Rupert Murdoch doesn't run Newscorp at the behest or tolerance of the UK Govt, Corporate charters cannot be withdrawn and neither can their assets be seized. They are privately owned companies. Newscorp isn't even a corportation in the sense that the BBC is, it doesn't have a charter, it is rare in the UK for a modern company to have a charter issues by statute or royal decree.

The only thing that they can do is influence OFCOM to refuse renewal of Sky's broadcasting rights in the UK......yeah, like that is going to happen. The credibility of OFCOM and the Govt would be torn apart when BSKYB sues the living hell out of them as Rupert Murdoch is not the CEO or Chairman of BSKYB.

 

[Dave M]

It's ridiculous that some people are under the impression that being in charge of such a large portion of western media comes with some responsibilities? That certain things are expected from such a position?

So what if he's in charge of 'dogs do the funniest things' and another re-run of stargate.

I'd be far more concerned if the population of any modern democratic country had such a poor level of education that they were unable to gather a few basic facts and come to their own conclusions. Why do schools not teach critical analysis?

We have the internet, you can watch hundreds of news shows, listen to thousands of radio stations and read literally millions (yes millions) of news sources (including blogs etc). Surely anyone with any sense would realise they need to challenge entrenched opinions (their own included) and not just take what your peers are telling you - that's just lazy thinking.

If we are indeed still reliant on being told what to think by half a dozen newspapers then my god have we got bigger problems than some power crazed Australian. We need to totally re-evaluate our education and electoral process because either we aren't teaching people how to be citizens or they just aren't capable and shouldn't have the vote.

Then we can stop being scared of what a newspaper owner's opinion is and start worrying about the opinion of the electorate.

 

[Castiel]

Very easily, if that company is based on illegal activities....Allen Stanford as one example of many.

Well, that would only make any kind of sense if Newscorp was a ponzi scheme...

Since it's an american based company, the US authorities could dismantle it if so inclined.

Actually they can't just dismantle it if they were so inclined as they so learned with Microsoft.

 

[PermaBanned]

So what if he's in charge of 'dogs do the funniest things' and another re-run of stargate.

Do you think there would have been such a fuss about it if he was?

If we are still reliant on being told what to think by half a dozen newspapers then my god have we got bigger problems than some power crazed Australian. We need to totally re-evaluate our education and electoral process because either we aren't teaching people how to be citizens or they just aren't capable and shouldn't have the vote.

Then we can stop being scared of what a newspaper owner's opinion is and start worrying about the opinion of the electorate.

Critical thinking isn't really something you can be taught directly. You can be directed in a direction where you might realize the benefits of it, but if you're taught it and 'just accept it' then you haven't learnt it. The media has a massive grip over a very large number of people, whether you like it or not.