Poll: FA approach Hodgson for England job.
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Good luck to him, give the guy a chance for the love of god.
Respectfully disagree.
Roy has had a role to play in football development in other countries he's managed. He had a massive role in the development of young football and football in general in Switzerland to name one.
Redknapp, as DM has said, is short sighted, he certainly now doesn't buy players for their longevity and is playing young players out of necessity.
Roy certainly did sign some older players recently; but he's much more involved in the development of young footballers.
Again, it's a case of recent time at Liverpool tainting his reputation. Don't get me wrong Pigeon, I'm not hailing him as some messiah, I think he's a far better manager then he's been given credit for by the media (who have championed Redknapp and are now miffed that who they wanted to get the job, didn't) and on here.
Anyway; being successful at a 'big' club doesn't translate to being better at International level, look at the German national manager
Löw only really managed Stuttgart as a 'semi' big job.I didn't agree with narrowing the poole to English managers only, best man for the job, I'm quite pleased Roy got the job because I quite like him, but I'm not sure who I'd want to mange England. I think England should hire someone who has a good footballing ethos and has a big interest in the development of young footballers in this country. I'm not sure who England could bring in to do this as a long term plan, it would also need the FA to build a long term plan, which is something they seem unable to do. Problem is, finding a manager who would want to do that and keep the media off his back. I'd honestly love to see someone come in and do all this, build a legacy for England, the problem is just finding someone and getting them to do it / the FA to agree to it.
Edit, England also need a coach, Redknapp has people that do that for him, Roy is a coach first and foremost.
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It definitely is, the only people that are angry are some Liverpool fans and Arry's pathetic mates in the press, everybody else is happy and want to give him a chance
The press are an utter disgrace. Nearly all of them have come out of this awfully. Won't be rushing out to buy a newspaper ever again. The sooner The Sun/Daily Mail/Mirror are out of business, the better. Gutter journalism by morons, for morons
Actually it is.
If Redknapp gave youth a chance:
BAE would not have played as many games as he did, Rose would have been used there.
Only reason Sandro and Livermore have been used is when Lennon/Parker/VDV have been injured. and probably because Huddlestone is injured.
Europa league was a joke to Redknapp, didnt want to play any of our "good players" in it.
He gave us Saha and Nelsen.
as much as the Hodgson appointment is about on a par with the McClaren one that is pathetic
Madness the reaction to Hodgson as England manager. I almost want England to do well now to shut his detractors up.
If you pay attention to his record the blips are few and far between in what has a been an extensive managerial career. That the last blip was at Liverpool (whose team are dire and perform no better under The Almighty Dalglish) counts far too much against him in England. If I was English I'd at the very least realise he deserves a bit of respect and support.
If you pay attention to his record the blips are few and far between in what has a been an extensive managerial career. That the last blip was at Liverpool (whose team are dire and perform no better under The Almighty Dalglish) counts far too much against him in England. If I was English I'd at the very least realise he deserves a bit of respect and support.
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It's unbelievable how Liverpool fans will use everything against him. What has Dalglish done for youth that Hodgson didn't, used Spearing and Shelvey more, did any of them watch either of those players this season, they made Poulson look positively good, no really, they are both horrendous players.
At Arsenal Wenger doesn't use some younger players he should, but most of them are just ****, 9/10 young players at every top club won't end up playing above league one, that is how football goes. Where is Chadwick now, and Bellion, and a dozen other guys who actually got a chance with utd, what about the other 100 that never even got a first team appearance.
Kelly is really the only youth player at Liverpool that looks worth a damn and, oh yes, Hodgson gave him European games(while actually not pretending the cup is an inconvenience like Redknapp) and his first league games.
I'd also like to know where else Hodgson has failed, he's won titles in countries with teams which were capable of winning titles, and he's done well elsewhere. WBA aren't capable of winning leagues, they were flirting with relegation without Hodgson, with Hodgson there wasn't a hint at any stage this season they might be relegated, and last year he took over a team struggling and again took them safe from relegation.
In Italy he was so well respected they asked him back as care taker manager for a second time.
Too many people equate not winning titles with, somehow, failure, people need to get a grip. Taking over WBA and failing to win the premier league is failure, or with Fulham. It wouldn't even slightly matter if he did fail a decade ago, managers learn over time, Fergie had plenty of bad seasons, as did Wenger, as did most managers, that's how you become a good manager, learning and improving. He did fantastically well with Fulham, built a team from scratch, a good team, a solid team, taught them to defend, got much more out of multiple players than most people thought was possible, and took them to a European final, yeah, horrific failure that he is.
what exactly was his failure at Inter, he took over a team that was doing very badly, took them up the table to 7th, got Uefa cup football, the following season he took them to the final but lost, and the year after that they won it(when he wasn't there) he was part of a rebuilding phase and his only "failure" was he didn't win the final, they also finished third in the table.
Where is this failure exactly? Oh he left, after finishing 3rd and getting to a final, the same way Mourinho is a failure because he was fired at Chelsea?
Blackburn finished 2 points above relegation before Hodgson joined,they failed to win any of their first 10 games the next season, he took over and got them to 6th despite the poor start, another massive massive failure for Hodgson. Yeah, he had a bad time the next season, but Blackburn were fighting relegation BEFORE he joined, he had one outstanding season and another back in their old form, having lost, iirc Shearer and Sutton and Hendry, and with Davies being the big buy, who failed spectacularly.
You can always trust The Sun to support our new man:
I expect nothing less from that rag.
Yay! Pretty much the reason Roy is the choice for England, just should have been made in March and let him do it part time till the end of the season.
what the fans need to get into their thick heads, is that despite all the delusional bilge the media pump into their soft heads, the England Football Team are no longer world class and haven't been so for along long time.
Jesus could be the manager and the team will still play god awful football and be outclassed by any half decent international outfit.
Managers don't suddenly become useless overnight. We all think cappello was hopeless, maybe his English was hopeless but his skills as a manager were well proven through his very successful track record at a club level. He didn't suddenly forget how to manage over night when he came to England, he simply didn't have the right tools to work with (His god awful command of the language non withstanding of course)
What England suffers from is delusions of grandeur. 1966 was along time ago, English football is actually not the best in the world. yeah the premier league might be the best in the world but now look at how many of the truly successful clubs run with 80% or more 'England born and bred' players in their squads ? Now look at how many of those clubs have England born and bred managers.......
Now look at somewhere like Spain. Look at a club like Barcelona and Athletico Madrid, the equivalents of say Man U / Arsenal / Man City / Chelsea over here. Then notice that the Spanish national team that won the world cup had around 8 or so of its first eleven players from the Barca first team, the rest from Madrid first team, with the rest of the squad made of from first teamers from Bilbao, Valencia, seville and a few UK clubs (Torres, Fabregas)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain_national_football_team.
The Spanish national team had effectively been playing together all season as they were all playing in their home league, most of which were playing for the same domestic clubs.
Seriously the manager is not the issue here, its the players............ they lost their edge and they have forgotten what national pride means. Just look at Rooney's reaction to the fans when he was booed at the world cup. If he was proud to play for England we would have been god damned ashamed of the god awful lack lustre performances he put in.
What England need is someone to give the players a wake up call as to what it means toplay for their country. Until this happens you will never succeed
Again your wrong, Considering friends at work who support Man UTD/Chelsea/Newcastle dont even want him near the job but of course like many you say its all liverpool fans..
The press are always a joke why does that even surprise you?
I do agree with you but I don't think it's as simple as 'the Spanish national side is Barcelona in a different strip'.
Out of Spain's squad of 24; eight play for Barcelona, four play for Real Madrid and four play for Bilbao.
The German national squad of 20; six play for Bayern Munich, three from Leverkusen and two from Dortmund.
The England national squad of 21; six play for Manchester City, four play for Manchester United, three for Chelsea and two for Liverpool.*
*All according to Wiki
I appreciate that this is the full squad and not the starting XI, but it's not quite as clear cut as you're making out.
In Germany, (not sure about Spain), they have a real emphasis on the national team, starting early in a players career and supported from a league level.
I think England are starting to realise this, and the work Stuart Pierce is doing with the Under 21s should be commended, but it's going to take a real change of attitude for the English clubs to embrace the national game and until that happens we're going to remain a quarter-final team (at best).