Poll: ***The Official Battlefield 3 Thread***

Xbox 360 BF3 server preference


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Its the Hit/ fire ratio that kills me...fire 7-10 bullets into the enemy, get hit by 1-3 bullets you die.

The input lag is high as a foot soldier. As is the bullet lag, tired of dieing after I ran behind a wall.

But the suppression thing even existing it comically bad.
 
that and the random bullet spread. Its better to be hit while shooting than to be under suppression. Makes no sense.

Good work on being top 3 in the world fella :)
 
Also, whats with the M26 dart getting hilariously long range and dealing out insta death?
Did they get their guide to weapons from a Penguin book?
 
It's a glitch. When underling on a weapon with HBAR it takes the primary weapons range and damage per pellet. The best weapon for it is the g3a3 apparently. Makes it a sniper shotgun much worse than USAS imo
 
Bullet lag was driving me mad last night, i dont know if its worse on servers in the US as the ping is higher, but the amount of times i was behind a wall and still died was silly.

Appart from that, and my really poor aim lately im still enjoying it, and im currently on a mission to get my 2nd meele medal :D , 9 ribbons away, and getting 1/2 per match, so shouldnt take long, its also my 2nd best weapon now with 748 kills, i will be going for 1000 or more.
 
Been out of this for awhile so my aim is shot to bits...but things do feel a little different to me.

What attachments should I be using for the AEK now? I use iron sights and I have the forgrip on but what about the 3rd attachment? Supp, flash supp, heavy barrel or what? It feels a little off to me but that could be down to my lack of practice.
 
i use suppressor/forgrip and with m16a4 and mostly end up with double kills to deaths, think the suppressor makes a big difference
 
real lack of players on this game now for the 360.

I've got the few of you that do play this still on my friends list, but the list is nowhere near as big as it was.

Once upon a time there would be 5 or 6 from OcUk on every night, all squadded up fighting to join each others games. Now i'm lucky if there is anybody from OcUK on when i join. Apart from scousegit (aka teflon don) who appears to be surgically attached to his xbox :p
 
Been out of this for awhile so my aim is shot to bits...but things do feel a little different to me.

What attachments should I be using for the AEK now? I use iron sights and I have the forgrip on but what about the 3rd attachment? Supp, flash supp, heavy barrel or what? It feels a little off to me but that could be down to my lack of practice.

Foregrip now reduces accuracy, but at the same time improving side to side recoil.

To balance this out, combine it with the Heavy Barrel which now has a huge accuracy increase which counter acts this, at the same time improving your side to side recoil.


If you have a look at this spredsheet :

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wz_KvOD-7B5sTx2SItHDO3qv5U7DvOFCrBT0TCPAoHw/edit

You can see that the foregrip decreases Horizontal (le left to right pull) recoil by 20 % but increases the spread when ADS (aiming down the sights) by 34 %

Combine this with the Heavy Barrel which reduces the ADS spread by 75 % but increases vertical recoil by 15 % and increases the hip fire spread by 20 %. However if you never hip fire this last one won't effect you.

So Foregrip + heavy barrel gets you a 15 % increase in V recoil but a 40 % reduction in spread when ADS and a 20 % reduction in H recoil. As you can see, if you do equip a foregrip, the flash supressor does nothing to counteract this 34 % increase in spread when ADS so not really a match. The silencer does help, but only has a 25 % decrease (versus a 34 % increase from the foregrip) as opposed to the 75 % decrease of the heavy barrel.
 
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tl;dr

best to use then?

Try a few things out, including no grip.
If you don't hip fire much then don't use grip.

On my kh2002 I've found best grip/silencer replacement is flash suppressor only.

Oddly I'm using holo sight more than kobra since the patch but there is no real reason why!!
 
Use the foregrip only on guns with heavy side to side recoil, like the AEK, Famas, F2000 etc..

Which attachment you should use depends on what weapon you are using.
 
Is anyone else getting worse sound problems on the 360 now?...a lot of the time..id say half the time im in a tank ALL sound just off except the SFX when I fire the cannon.
Lots of other things like tanks getting stuck by trees, small broken bits of cement walls that you cant move them again etc.
 
real lack of players on this game now for the 360.

I've got the few of you that do play this still on my friends list, but the list is nowhere near as big as it was.

Once upon a time there would be 5 or 6 from OcUk on every night, all squadded up fighting to join each others games. Now i'm lucky if there is anybody from OcUK on when i join. Apart from scousegit (aka teflon don) who appears to be surgically attached to his xbox :p

Global stats

PC online
23 189
PS3 online
54 444
360 online
65 090

usually a good 20-30k more on the ps3, i dont even play it now if mates aren't on
 
People are moaning about hit detection etc has gotten worse. This isn't the case. It's the huge nerf to the foregrip. It used to be a 50% reduction in horizontal recoil with no side effect. Now it is weapon dependent but most only get 33% reduction with a 50% increase in spread (Spread is the term used for the randomness bullets go which is separate to recoil). Add a heavy barrel to combat this as it reduces spread by 75% but it does increase recoil a little.

I do not know the maths side of things but it certainly feels as if most weapons are less accurate now. The Famas and F2000 are complete garbage now.

I could use most weapons pre-patch and be effective with them but now I seem to be bottlenecked into using a select few. L85 for long range, AEK for short and the M16 as the jack of all trades. The whole irony of that is the forgrip nerf was DICE wanting to induce variation of weapon attachments but all they have done is make a lot of weapons rubbish.
 
Oki, cheers, i havent used the famas since the patch, that seemed to get right nerfed

m16a4 is way forward


Heavy Barrel by itself for the M16. Doesn't need the foregrip. Its not worth the 35 % increase in spread that the foregrip has, considering that the M16 is one of the lowest side to side recoil assault rifles in the game.
 
MrLOL - Feel free to add me, same name as here. If I'm on playing with friends then I won't join you (no offence!) but on the odd occasion I'm on my own and have nothing better to do than fly jets then I'm happy to squad up with whoever.

Looks like I'll have to give the M16A3 a blast tonight.
 
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A good thing to do is go to bf3stats.com on either firefox or chrome and download the Better battle stats plugin, then log into your battlelog and click weapons.

right down the bottom it will give you a graph and a image with a clickable list of options for setup showing how much spread you will have.
 
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