grandmother, 94, beaten up in her bed as she slept

Torture and even death by torture is a just punishment for what was done to this woman.

If you disagree with that then YOU'RE an immoral piece of **** with zero sense of human empathy for the victim.

How exactly is torturing him going to help anything? Is it going to erase the damage that's been done? No.

Thanks for calling me an immoral piece of **** with zero empathy. That might hurt except for the fact you don't have a clue what you're talking about and are clearly an unsavoury character due to expressing the desire to torture a man to death.

No-one in their right mind beats up an old lady like that. Either a) he was high on some kind of drugs or b) he has a mental problem, possibly stemming from a screwed up childhood.

There are things called 'human rights'. He's human, so he has them. That's how it works, and that's a symbol of human moral and social progress. I'll echo your comment by making one of my own: "anyone who disagrees with this is a dangerous individual with a lack of empathy or respect for basic morality, or understanding of how a mature and progressive society actually deals with criminals".

I'm extremely glad you don't have a shred of power to implement your ideas.
 
Unfortunately if caught, the criminal would get:

- A few years in jail
- Free TV, bed, meals, showers, gym and maybe other stuff too
- Rehabilitation
- Released early for good behaviour.

All paid for by tax money.


So true :(
 
an unsavoury character due to expressing the desire to torture a man to death.

No-one in their right mind beats up an old lady like that. Either a) he was high on some kind of drugs or b) he has a mental problem, possibly stemming from a screwed up childhood.

There are things called 'human rights'. He's human, so he has them.

1) I wouldnt torture him. As I said hungry carnivorous animals are capable of doing that just fine as well as ending his life. And the animals get fed!

2) No one who does something like this deserves my sympathy for anything. Lots of people have mental problems, that doesnt cause them to do something like this.

3) A 'human' wouldnt beat a 94 old woman up this badly while she slept, no matter how great a lack of morality they have. Such a persons 'human rights' should be stripped the minute they are found guilty of such a crime with 100% conclusive proof beyond any shadow of doubt.

Lions and sharks need food for survival. People like whoever carried out this crime are a good source of nutrition for them.
 
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It is true that torture achieves nothing in circumstances such as this. I think these kind of people should just be removed from society as quickly as possible, whether it be by death or preferably life in prison, if it was actually life in prison which it is in the US.
 
Typical liberal response when beaten by facts and reason, more proof liberalism is a mental disorder.

I'm just laughing at you now. You brought no facts to the table - your own links disproved your point.

I can't discuss it with Bhavv, we appear to have no common ground, and as for reasoning with you? You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

My liberalism is a mental disorder? I'm actually laughing at you now. That and feeling a fair bit of pity.
 
I'm just laughing at you now. You brought no facts to the table - your own links disproved your point.

I can't discuss it with Bhavv, we appear to have no common ground, and as for reasoning with you? You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.

My liberalism is a mental disorder? I'm actually laughing at you now. That and feeling a fair bit of pity.

I am just laughing at the arguments now,
PS: my ebay thing is sorted, kinda
 
I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing how much people are arguing?
Also why would you laugh if I'm laughing and people are laughing at you while people are laughing at every one?
 
It is true that torture achieves nothing in circumstances such as this. I think these kind of people should just be removed from society as quickly as possible, whether it be by death or preferably life in prison, if it was actually life in prison which it is in the US.

Agreed, although we certainly shouldn't be looking to emulate the failed US justice system, we're doing far, far better than them.

We need a scientifically sound prison system, not one where the Daily Mail has a say. People should go into prison for a minimum sentence but not leave until they are literate, and suitable to join society. If they cannot then it's probably cheaper to have them in prison than back out again committing crimes.
 
I can't discuss it with Bhavv, we appear to have no common ground

Its absolutely fantastic that I have no common ground with you. Absolutely wonderful, great, brilliant.

If whoever did this doesnt spend the rest of their life behind bars / somehow manages to get out, I would hope their next victim is a close relative of yours so you can experience what this woman and her family must be going through.

not leave until they are literate, and suitable to join society.

The criminal in this case is not suitable to live in any human society, and no amount of rehabilitation will fix that.
 
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Its absolutely fantastic that I have no common ground with you. Absolutely wonderful, great, brilliant.

If whoever did this doesnt spend the rest of their life behind bars / somehow manages to get out, I would hope their next victim is a close relative of yours.

Baaahhh, some people, why man, can't you just stop arguing, why are there mini wars in GD
 
Its absolutely fantastic that I have no common ground with you. Absolutely wonderful, great, brilliant.

If whoever did this doesnt spend the rest of their life behind bars / somehow manages to get out, I would hope their next victim is a close relative of yours.

That might be a tad harsh, hoping someones relative is a criminals next victim merely because you disagree with his views. Too far dude, too far :(
 
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