If this is the case why are the government scared to do a public vote for capital punishment?
grandmother, 94, beaten up in her bed as she slept
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If this is the case why are the government scared to do a public vote for capital punishment?
Because the pitchfork crowd might turn up and drown out the voices of reason.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1986002,00.html
The rates are high here, but as you can see in Socialist paradise their system seems to work very well.
We can't have the death penalty anyway due to European law, little point in a public vote.
The rates are high here, but as you can see in Socialist paradise their system seems to work very well.
We can't have the death penalty anyway due to European law, little point in a public vote.
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[TW]Sponge;21840111 said:
101% agree!!.
There is no sense of community spirit anymore. Everyone with criminal intention is being allowed to get away with whatever they want to do with end result being only soft punishments.
I live in London and I have been to several parts of this city where I don't get a sense of 'civilization'. I don't see nice somber educated people. Many times I am just seeing people especially many youths with 'gangsta' attitude who are ready to cause violence at a slight tick of the button.
And the prisons are empty.
Hardly comparable scenarios, given the culture differences IMO. And 1 in 5 reoffending rate is still not great. Oh that's fantastic, only 1 in 5 people will be released to murder, assault, or mug people instead of 1 in 2. :/ I'd like to see a breakdown of reoffending by type of crime to be honest. Would be interesting.
Yeah, and this grandmother was severely beaten in her bed because our youth don't have jobs and "there's nuttin' for 'em to do innit". There's sick ****ers anywhere and everywhere you go, the problem is Britain just does nothing about it.
Oh please.
I think that there's people in this thread who savour revenge and punishment to the point that they would rather a criminal suffered even if it prevented any chance of rehabilitation.
I'm all for being tough on crime, it costs us way too much just now because we're soft on it. But the purpose of anything we do should be for the benefit of a better society, not to satisfy sinister urges for revenge and gratification.
It doesn't mean it can't get lower due to improvement.
It's certainly a lot better than forking up for keeping someone in Prison for life or killing them.
Rehabilitation is fair enough in the case of petty crime, but when it comes to things that are downright evil, such as murder, GBH, etc - how can you ever be sure that the criminal is able to be rehabilitated in the first place? Psychologists are making an educated guess at best.
I'd rather pay my taxes to ensure than nutters who could potentially assault or kill my gran aren't released again, thanks very much! By all means give these people a sense of purpose and meaningful life behind bars, but don't take unnecessary risks by releasing them back into the public domain without knowing whether or not they will go off on a jolly rampage.
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Your right, that's why RomanNose refuses to answer the question.
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Well, yeah.. it has to be weighed up, between the cost of keeping them in prison, the likelihood that they will re-offend and ensuring that sentences are proportionate.
What doesn't work is the stupid system now where career criminals are in prison, costing us money, and then out of prison costing us more, and then back in again.
The evil type crimes are in the far minority, and we shouldn't really be too worried about creating a rehabilitation policy that includes them, relative to the total cost of prisons and the effect of crime it's not a big deal to keep those types of criminals locked up forever.
The likelihood of the person responsible for this being mentally sick is very high imho, sane people simply don't go around beating old people up in their beds for no reason what-so-ever!
So perhaps the anger and disgust should be more directed at the people and systems in-place that are supposedly meant to detect and protect us from mentally ill people!
So perhaps the anger and disgust should be more directed at the people and systems in-place that are supposedly meant to detect and protect us from mentally ill people!
I could go mental tomorrow and run around the high street, hacking off random people's heads with a machete. There is no system in place that would have been monitoring me and that would have prevented it from happening. Some people just lose it and are "bad".
The only people that may be monitored are those who have been caught within the social or medical services previously.
I agree that some people may be mentally ill and I think that those who commit these crimes probably do have something very wrong with them. In that case they should be kept in a secure facility, it doesn't mean that they have to be treated really badly though.
How would you feel if it was your gran?
Is sitting in a cell playing the latest playstation3 games punishment? No, id much rather pay some african county to 'house' the criminals, see how many people do these sick crimes then.
Rant over, makes my blood boil lol
Is sitting in a cell playing the latest playstation3 games punishment? No, id much rather pay some african county to 'house' the criminals, see how many people do these sick crimes then.
Rant over, makes my blood boil lol
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Supermax tbh. Solitary confinement.
You're a monster for not agreeing with torturing the person who did this to death, if you don't agree I hope one of your relatives get beaten near to death, haha!
BTW I'm totally a normal person and my opinions should be respected.
BTW I'm totally a normal person and my opinions should be respected.
Rant born out of ignorance, like most people who start blabbering about torturing and mutilating people and thinking it would stop someone beating an old woman in her bed for no reason, they totally only did it because they thought they would only get a few years. The "what if it was your x" argument is stupid as no one with emotional attachment to a victim should be deciding punishment because they won't be rational. I, like many other people who don't believe in torture and the death penalty would probably feel like doing horrible things to someone if they did this to someone we know, we also realise that it isn't acceptable and if we did would happily go to prison for it. At least I would but as this hasn't happened to me I can't say if I'd have blood rage or just be too shocked to even think about it.
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The world population is already predicted to reach 9 billion by 2050, there will eventually be a population problem if there isn't already. Logically we shouldn't waste resources on downright evil people like this..