Oh god, when did you come into my life? General Discussion is going to be hella fun until you get banned, sir.
Ok, I have a question for you bro... Would you have voted for Le Front National? If not, who would you have voted for?
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Ok, I have a question for you bro... Would you have voted for Le Front National? If not, who would you have voted for?
Looks like this guy copied my election manifesto-
-retirement age down from 62 to 30
-tax rate of 150% for the rich
-no more debt
-free unicorns for everyone
-90,000,000 more jobs
-average french penis size increased to 10 inch, flacid.
I also made absolutely no mention on how I was going to pay for anything, but you never need to to get the simple minded votes.
I hate sarkozy and iam glad he's gone but this guy has been put in power by spouting nothing but ideological statements and nothing to back them up on how they are going to be funded.
The massive taz rate on the rich is also going to backfire heavily, for a while we had one of the highest tax rates for top tier earners, end result? we got the least money from it as the rich moved the money else where. Reducing the pension age will do nothing but bring forward the inevitable pension crises and massively undermine long term investment.
-retirement age down from 62 to 30
-tax rate of 150% for the rich
-no more debt
-free unicorns for everyone
-90,000,000 more jobs
-average french penis size increased to 10 inch, flacid.
I also made absolutely no mention on how I was going to pay for anything, but you never need to to get the simple minded votes.
I hate sarkozy and iam glad he's gone but this guy has been put in power by spouting nothing but ideological statements and nothing to back them up on how they are going to be funded.
The massive taz rate on the rich is also going to backfire heavily, for a while we had one of the highest tax rates for top tier earners, end result? we got the least money from it as the rich moved the money else where. Reducing the pension age will do nothing but bring forward the inevitable pension crises and massively undermine long term investment.
What a perfect post.
I just don't think he's going to be taken seriously on the international stage. We have the G8 at Camp David in a couple of weeks, so it'll be interesting to see how he acts at that. I can't see Merkel or Cameron being particularly keen to provide him with any concessions. Monti won't have time for him, a man of numbers and nothing else vs. a man of rhetoric and nothing else could be interesting though.
It'll be quite interesting to see what Medvedev does with him though.
Guys, can't we just ignore Tyron and discuss the matter at hand. There's no reason to acknowledge him, he's made it quite clear he's not interested in debate.
It'll be quite interesting to see what Medvedev does with him though.
Guys, can't we just ignore Tyron and discuss the matter at hand. There's no reason to acknowledge him, he's made it quite clear he's not interested in debate.
Yup overly aggressive taxation of income doesn't tend to end well. You're not likely to get the super rich who earn lots through assets/dividend payments and are able to structure there wealth so they face minimum tax liabilities.
On the other hand it does mean that more french bankers and other professionals will move to London and pay the UK govt 45% in tax not to mention spend over here... and for those working in France the incentive to do any overtime is much reduced. Suddenly opening the surgery on a Saturday morning or having a late opening during the week isn't necessarily worth bothering with for the french GP etc...
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I think it's a good thing for Europe and the UK. An alternative strategy in France may prove successful and lead others to follow suite. The UK will benefit indirectly from any additional spending in France without having to take on debt ourselves.
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Unless of course the alternative strategy fails badly...
Ok everyone, you are wrong about Tyron. He has just proven beyond doubt that he is a (comic) genius!
Of course. Without sounding like a 'looney lefty' or a 'deficit denier', the strategy currently being employed isn't working that well. I don't believe that we have zero policy options on the table, and brute force austerity is our only option. Do you think that an experiment of this kind would be worthwhile? Obviously, if it goes **** up, Europe is screwed, but we are already pretty screwed...
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.It's certainly an interesting time. Interesting Freefaller you say that he isn't the right kind of leader for France, but Socialist leaders have been very popular there historically and it is a philosophy ingrained within the nations psyche.
I'll watch developments there closely to see how greater state expenditure pans out in the current European climate.
One last things, 80.2% turnout is fantastic. I wish we were so connected with politics in this country.
I'll watch developments there closely to see how greater state expenditure pans out in the current European climate.
One last things, 80.2% turnout is fantastic. I wish we were so connected with politics in this country.
I think as a whole we are but are simply to cynical (rightly or wrongly) with every party introducing a large 'It doesnt matter who I vote for its the same ****' factor.
Look at our current parties
con- spineless and making no progress in getting us out of the current mess
lab- spineless and responsible for the current mess
lib- spineless and hopeless
green- crazy and short sighted
ukip- crazy and short sighted
bnp- crazy and short sighted
MRL- ..... well at least they are honest about it.
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I wish we had the calibre of politicians to stimulate such a connection.
If the alternative strategy worked, France, Greece and indeed the UK wouldn't be in the mess they are in in the first place, given that the alternative strategy is to borrow your way out of a debt crisis...
Agreed, there is UKIP but I have my doubts.
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Everyone is under the impression what we're going through is a global economic crisis, and not a local one.
Almost as stupid as cutting your way out of a growth crisis... Neither France, nor the UK, have made serious attempts to stimulate their economies back to growth, following the financial crisis. Stimulus was used to prevent depression, but nothing substantial has been done, since. It's a shame that our government saw political opportunity in scaring the population into thinking we were almost bankrupt, which in turn decreased aggregate demand and consumption, which damped output and growth even more.
We've got Nadine Dorries!
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Or Japan, where austerity turned out to be equally disastrous. The current financial problems aren't caused by debt per se, but irresponsible lending.
Taking on more debt is a risky strategy and not one I'd like to try in the UK. But if someone else is willing to give it a go, I'm more than happy to sit back and see what happens.
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