Will you go to windows8?

Most definitely. It's not perfect but it works fine. There are a few things about the UI that annoy the hell out of me but they only surface once in a while and no grounds to write off the whole OS.

On the most part, it's a good upgrade and it's only going to get better over time both in terms of the OS itself and the quality of the third party Metro apps. Those who don't like it can, and probably will, stick to Windows 7.
 
ME was the only bad one for me,I couldn't even get it installed on most systems without random blue screen errors. No issues at all with 95 or vista, can't understand why people say they are bad.

upgrade to 8 depends on the price
 
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I don't know about your PC, but on mine the start menu takes maybe 10% of the screen and I don't have to toggle between the Xbox interface and my usual desktop when I do my thing. Not to mention that default tiles are terrible and 90% of people don't customise things like that.
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That's the point ~10% on an awkward messy list it's bad by design and while you have just 10% open you can only work on the start menu, it's not like you have two sets of mice and the brain power to use start menu and carry on working. Therefore a full screen easy to see and navigate start menu makes much more sense. Add to that live tiles for instant information and it's day and night a better design from the ground up. .
People will modify metro.
Also if you reall don't won't to use metro daily the vast majority of people do not use the start menu day to day and only dive into it when need for settings or so
Something obscure. So you don't need to deal with metro apart from those occasions. I can go days or weeks without seeing metro (as there's no decent apps) there's just no need to delve into it for day to day use(just like start menu). However if the apps come including games it will replace my desktop, live tiles, yes please. No having to launch a browser to check emails or opening up an email program.



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do you think MS will include a an option to turn off the metro bit?
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No, it makes no sense to turn it off and metro is clearly the future
 
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Memphis said:
I will move if it's priced like Windows 7 was. If it isn't, I'll move whenever I next upgrade.
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I hope it is, and I expect it will be. It worked well and gave them a large instant market penetration which helps for driver/app and other third party development.
 
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Also if you reall don't won't to use metro daily the vast majority of people do not use the start menu day to day and only dive into it when need for settings or so Something obscure
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Right, I don't know anyone not using the start menu, the computer illiterates use it a lot, since it's one of the few features that they can get the hang of in short time, it basically gives you an access to everything from a relatively simple menu.

I use it all the time, having an empty desktop and only a handful of programs and folders pinned down on the taskbar.

So you don't need to deal with metro apart from those occasions. I can go days or weeks without seeing metro (as there's no decent apps) there's just no need to delve into it for day to day use(just like start menu).
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Really? How do you go about not seeing Metro after logging in?


You're the funniest Windows 8 preacher I've seen on this forum.
 
When my Windows 7 Pro gives up and dies I might or if a unique feature to Windows 8 improves my daily activities (gaming, photo editing, multimedia) but I doubt that will ever be the case.

My 7 install is from when 7 came out in 2009 and is still as fast as it was when new. I've never even considered replacing it with 8 even through trying out the beta and preview builds of 8 in a VM.

Mainly it's down to the fact that I have the 7 install on an SSD now and feel as if it's the dogs balls.
 
Go look at Microsoft stats for start menu usage. Surprisingly w8 when woken up goes to the last place, ie desktop. Main apps are on taskbar. So I only need metro when I need something abnormal, just like the start menu.

Vast majority of People do not use the start menu to launch apps. Using it almost purly as a power button. Again go look at MS stats.
 
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Right, I don't know anyone not using the start menu, the computer illiterates use it a lot, since it's one of the few features that they can get the hang of in short time, it basically gives you an access to everything from a relatively simple menu.

I use it all the time, having an empty desktop and only a handful of programs and folders pinned down on the taskbar.



Really? How do you go about not seeing Metro after logging in?


You're the funniest Windows 8 preacher I've seen on this forum.
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Why does somebody have to be a preacher just because they find an OS meets their needs? :confused:

And yeah, it just goes to the desktop anyway if that's where you left it. Even if the Metro comes up it takes, what, 1 second to click the desktop panel? I really don't get what the big deal is. I guess everybody uses an OS slightly differently, but I hardly ever use the Start button in XP/7 anyway - I have everything pinned or a desktop shortcut. The Start menus are a bloomin' mess and it takes forever to find what you want.
 
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Why does somebody have to be a preacher just because they find an OS meets their needs? :confused:
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I'm not having a go at him, it just pains me that Glaucus doesn't seem to realise that, as you have suggested, an OS has to meet somebody's needs. Any thread where you criticize the Metro interface here, you'll see Glaucus defending it like it was the best thing since sliced bread.

Start Menu is flawed but it's infinitely better for my and many others' needs. Maybe 1 in 10 or even 20 people that have tried Windows 8 Previews actually like the Metro UI on desktops. Read up on tech blogs and technology websites that do reviews/previews, it's not just my opinion.

Moreover, most people actually discard the whole OS because of the new interface.

And yeah, it just goes to the desktop anyway if that's where you left it. Even if the Metro comes up it takes, what, 1 second to click the desktop panel? I really don't get what the big deal is. I guess everybody uses an OS slightly differently, but I hardly ever use the Start button in XP/7 anyway - I have everything pinned or a desktop shortcut. The Start menus are a bloomin' mess and it takes forever to find what you want.
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There's a reason why people pay £00s extra for a couple of hundred MHz increase in CPU clocks, spend extra on a fast SSD or overclock their PCs. Not to mention all the tweaks made to the OS or constant updates that are supposed to

Yeah, the reason is efficiency. A single stupid thing can put me off from using a program, an OS with an annoying interface is not something I'm willing to put up with.

I'm not saying that everyone will dislike the new UI, many do, however, and I think it's very tricky to advertise it as an improvement.

Just to clear up, I use Start Menu, the right panel's shortcuts and the search bar for quick launch of programs. For indexed file search, it's better to use something like Everything.
 
You'll find I defend it as people don't understand it or misrepresent it.
It does work for people and should work for everyone. Seeing as you haven't looked at the stats it's not surprising your comments.
Would help if you did some redervh and watched some of the design videos explains a lot, after all you are using a alpha/beta and not a normal user. People hate change because it changes.
 
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Surprisingly w8 when woken up goes to the last place, ie desktop.
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Implying that sleep state works properly for any PC enthusiasts.

Main apps are on taskbar. So I only need metro when I need something abnormal, just like the start menu.
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That's a user specific experience, then. You can't speak for everyone in this case.

Vast majority of People do not use the start menu to launch apps. Using it almost purly as a power button. Again go look at MS stats.
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Fair enough, must be pretty annoying for MS that most people "on the Internet" seem to disagree with the idea of removing the start menu.

Speaking of the shutdown button, it's so hard to find it and so annoying to use key combo to just bring up that panel.

Believe it or not, I'm very adaptable to changes, if the changes are for the better. These are not.

Another thing that you don't seem to realise is that people like me don't like the new tiles menu. It's not just about removing the start menu, it's about replacing it with even less ergonomic feature that takes up the whole screen and doesn't seem to be desktop friendly.

How you can defend that is beyond me.

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You'll find I defend it as people don't understand it or misrepresent it.
It does work for people and should work for everyone. Seeing as you haven't looked at the stats it's not surprising your comments.
Would help if you did some redervh and watched some of the design videos explains a lot, after all you are using a alpha/beta and not a normal user. People hate change because it changes.
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Of course my opinion is subjective, I'm speaking from experience, not scientific research. Take is as you may.

I don't hate changes. And I highly doubt it's an alpha/beta issue.
 
I don't speak for everyone, but it's not a unique way of working. Again watch or read some of the blogs they have millions of data points.

So you would rather a task menu that takes up 10% now that's the waste of space. You have a monitor use it. It's like people who had 2-4gb of ram on vista then complained the OS actually used it. You aren't open to change the way you think. If you were you would realise wasting all the real estate with a tiny menu is pointless.

Less ergonomic? Using full screen I can find stuff super fast, not scroll throw a million nested files. Not suited for mouse? Yes it is, it just does touch as well. CP version much improved mouse controll and I expect some more tweaks next month.
 
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Vast majority of People do not use the start menu to launch apps. Using it almost purly as a power button. Again go look at MS stats.
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Where do the stats say that?

pictures -61%
documents -56%
control panel -54%
pinned items -51%
all programs -42%
computer -40%
mfu -28%
menu open -11%

That's the changes from vista to 7. you are inferring that the vast majority of people dont use the start menu for anything other than switching the pc off - Sorry, but not according to those stats.
 
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Will do, any good examples? I've read a few linked in the general Windows 8 thread.
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Screen resolution/split screen is a good one. As is "designing search for the start screen"

Easier to go to YouTube and watch the blogs less info but you'll get the general idea in a shorter time.
 
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