President Obama Endorses Gay Marriage
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For those that oppose gay marriage have a look at the groups that support your views. I normally feel that if my views coincide with something the BNP feel strongly about it is probably time to reconsider those views.
Reasonably brave move from Obama, but unlikely to make a huge amount of difference as those most opposed to gay marriage are unlikely top vote for him anyway.
Reasonably brave move from Obama, but unlikely to make a huge amount of difference as those most opposed to gay marriage are unlikely top vote for him anyway.
I think it's great to celebrate two people committing to each other, but these days people are to ready to throw it out the window, which is why it is becoming worthless. Marriage generally seems to be becoming disposable.
Whilst I am in favour of marriage, I would put more stock in people staying together and working through problems, especially if they have kids. (Just so it's not misunderstood, I don't mean "staying together for the sake of the kids", I mean commiting to the relationship.). Of course, I feel that if you intend to be together you should commit to each other in some way, but I have lots of mates that couldn't care less about such things and have been with partners long term with no "official" commitment.
All this needs now is Newt Gingrich (married 3 times, told 1st wife he was divorcing her while she was in hospital recovering from surgery) to say that Obama's position is destroying the institution of marriage and the ROFLcopter that is the Republican party can continue on 
I wouldn't align myself with the majority of the views of such parties as the BNP (or idiots like the EDL), but party view points will cross at some time.
Given his pastoral background, it must have been a very tough decision.
All this needs now is Newt Gingrich (married 3 times, told 1st wife he was divorcing her while she was in hospital recovering from surgery) to say that Obama's position is destroying the institution of marriage and the ROFLcopter that is the Republican party can continue on
It shouldn't be put to a vote, we are talking about the rights of a group of people that are currently discriminated against. We live in a democracy, the majority does not get to decide what rights minorities can, and cannot have.
Says you? Sorry not good enough, people are being bullied into have a decision made for or against without a vote.
I think a lot of people in this thread would have their world destroyed by the results if there was a vote.
I agree with you here. Let's not do something because the BNP or the like don't want it. Let's not do or don't do things based on what's best, and let the BNP fade away into insignificance.
Kinda there with you, but somehow I'm branded all evil and bigoted lol.
When it comes to peoples rights there shouldn't be a vote.
Shall we have a vote to decide whether black people can be married? How about a vote on whether women with blonde hair can become MPs?
If you are going to have a right extended to some individuals, you simply cannot refuse to grant it to another group on grounds of their sexual orientation. You have no grounds for doing so, and you have not even attempted to offer any. THAT is not good enough.
Be very much happy the day that happens. I think he's right in some ways though.. if a group feels -strongly- about something, it may be worth looking at.
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The key thing to note being the difference between thinking something isn't right, and thinking something shouldn't be allowed. Which is what I'm sort of getting at. I'm not saying it shouldn't be allowed, because it should. I have a gay friend and he's an amazing mate, his sexuality doesn't really affect our friendship and I supported him when he came out the closet and I'd still support him if he wanted to enter a civil partnership with someone else.
I thought you were being branded as bigoted (not sure if anyone has called you evil yet) because you oppose gay marriage because it is unnatural without being able to actually say why you oppose it. Which does seem a touch bigoted when you examine it.
See I think this is a 'good' idea to have. Even if you don't like something, or disagree with it, you respect it and appreciate that other people's business is theirs and that this issue doesn't affect you.
I'm like this with some other issues.
I'm not fussed about gay marriage truth be told but commenting on the issue, I think it's a step in the right direction.
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Good on the President, no reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to marry. To those who oppose it, what effect could it possibly have on your life? None, so stop denying others the right to be happy.
Hit the nail on the head.
I couldn't really describe it properly as my words were jumbled but you basically just described it for me there
.Fair enough. Put it like that, I can't really argue. Bit scary that actually
I've just always believed that marriage should be between a man and a woman, I've grown up believing that. EDIT: I'm not really sure I would 'oppose' it, I just don't think being homesexual is right, but as said.. on the flip side, that's my opinion and others have the right to do what they wish, I don't command their lives.I'd be very interested as to how he came to the decision for this annoucement.
p.s. I know when I put the word 'evil' in, it hadn't been used...just obviously I touched some nerves.
For example: If a two males friends were to get married to each other, I'd be delighted to go to their wedding and be very happy for them. But I would still hold my views. So whatever that is, I have no idea.
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