President Obama Endorses Gay Marriage

Tyron said:
Never saw it but I will after this post.

Why don't you stay out of the thread? You have nothing to add and like a beaten liberal you try to attack the poster with irrelevancy.
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It's not irrelevant and I wasn't addressing his post, but his signature. He doesn't want to talk about it so that's fine.

[FnG]magnolia;21882151 said:
Genuine question here.

Why are you so aggressive in everything you post?
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He's likely a previously banned member here to wind people up. Every single one of his posts is aggressive and bizarre. His strange views are almost always debunked, at which point he bails the thread calling everyone a troll.

He also seems to like trying to insult people in a veiled fashion, something the mods need to look at.
 
spudbynight said:
Just to add that anyone thinking they can criticise Christianity should really do some research and make sure they are informed. Reading the Bible in full would be a good start.
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Reading the Bible in full is what turns most people off Christianity.

There was some research done a while back which showed the more someone knew about the Bible, the more likley they were to be an Athiest.

If any group of people need to read the Bible more it's Christians, most of whom have never read anything more than the cherry picked lines their pastors spoon feed them.

Have you heard of Matt Dillahunty (look him up on YOutube)? A prominant Athiest who knows more about the bible that 99.999% of Christians do and often tears them a new one by pointing out the numerous contradictions in the New Testament alone (let alone the OT).
 
Robbo said:
It's not irrelevant and I wasn't addressing his post, but his signature. He doesn't want to talk about it so thats fine.
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I have posted a lot on here on this very subject including a pretty large contribution to a Mega thread on the subject. My views haven't changed - use the search feature to find out more.

:-)
 
spudbynight said:
I have posted a lot on here on this very subject including a pretty large contribution to a Mega thread on the subject. My views haven't changed - use the search feature to find out more.

:-)
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I haven't noticed it before. I found the link quite interesting, I suppose it's getting a lot of backing from religious people in general.
 
estebanrey said:
Reading the Bible in full is what turns most people off Christianity.

There was some research done a while back which showed the more someone knew about the Bible, the more likley they were to be an Athiest.

If any group of people need to read the Bible more it's Christians, most of whom have never read anything more than the cherry picked lines their pastors spoon feed them.

Have you heard of Matt Dillahunty (look him up on YOutube)? A prominant Athiest who knows more about the bible that 99.999% of Christians do and often tears them a new one by pointing out the numerous contradictions in the New Testament alone (let alone the OT).
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If you want to go off topic and start criticizing Christianity then feel free to start a new thread.Matt Dillahunty is more than welcome to post on it.
 
Robbo said:
I haven't noticed it before. I found the link quite interesting, I suppose it's getting a lot of backing from religious people in general.
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And atheists and gays as well.

Make your own mind up on things - but please don't assume that the opinion of someone else is less valid.
 
spudbynight said:
No, the laws of the Old Testament have been superceded. No circumcision for Christians either or prohibition of certain foods. It doesn't mean that the Old Testament is rubbish.

If you want to know more Google will link you to lots of info. I don't think you are really interested though so I won't waste too much of my time.

Just to add that anyone thinking they can criticise Christianity should really do some research and make sure they are informed. Reading the Bible in full would be a good start.

I have read the Koran, the Talmud, the Torah, the Vedas and many other religious books. Ignorance is not a strong position to criticise from.
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I've read enough of the Bible to know it's a hateful book. I am certainly not ignorant when it comes to Christianity, so don't pretend the old testament has been superseded.
 
I believe that they should be able to marry, there is no valid reason why not.
However, I do think individual churches should be able to decide whether they will do the ceremony or not.
 
estebanrey said:
If any group of people need to read the Bible more it's Christians, most of whom have never read anything more than the cherry picked lines their pastors spoon feed them.
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So you've been then? Does the Koran allow sodomy, how many other religions don't allow it but you've failed to mention/criticise?

I agree with spud anyway.. you are going totally off topic.
 
Robbo said:
He's likely a previously banned member here to wind people up. Every single one of his posts is aggressive and bizarre.
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Very wrong on all accounts.

If you get butt hurt when I prove how asinine your posts are then stop replying? I don't want to be blamed for giving you nightmares.
 
Scougar said:
So you've been then? Does the Koran allow sodomy, how many other religions don't allow it but you've failed to mention/criticise?

I agree with spud anyway.. you are going totally off topic.
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Spud was the one who brought up the Bible and the OT vs the NT stuff not me!

No religious book allows or bans anything, it's all interpretation. Any modern day version of the Bible will have been translated, translated again, edited, updated, interpreted by one scholar then by another who translates it again before you read it in English so I wouldn't be 100% of anything written in the King James version we take as Gospel (pun intended).

Unless you've read the original Hebrew scripts I don't think anyone can pin too much emphasis on any given word, phrase or sentence written in the English version of the Bible.
 
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Deep said:
I believe that they should be able to marry, there is no valid reason why not.
However, I do think individual churches should be able to decide whether they will do the ceremony or not.
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Personally I think that asking a religion to carry out weddings for gay couple's is wrong, when it is going against the religion. They have plenty of legitimate places to chose from, why chose a religious place?

Christianity view's homosexuality as a sin. That mean's generally speaking gays are still welcome in the Church, because it's just a sin.. and everyone sins every single day most likely. What wouldn't be acceptable would be attending a church when you have absolutely no intention of trying to change that sin I imagine, because it would be right in your face.

I would imagine there are Christian gays out there.

This thread has just turned into a hate fest anyway. Shame.
 
If a dude wants to do another dude in his spare time (and then perhaps marry that dude) then who are we to stop them.

I agree with my main man Obama. Alas, his latest views will no doubt anger the Christians...... and maybe even Black people......
 
Scougar said:
Personally I think that asking a religion to carry out weddings for gay couple's is wrong, when it is going against the religion. They have plenty of legitimate places to chose from, why chose a religious place?

Christianity view's homosexuality as a sin. That mean's generally speaking gays are still welcome in the Church, because it's just a sin.. and everyone sins every single day most likely. What wouldn't be acceptable would be attending a church when you have absolutely no intention of trying to change that sin I imagine, because it would be right in your face.

I would imagine there are Christian gays out there.

This thread has just turned into a hate fest anyway. Shame.
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+1

This is what I have been saying all along just the ignorant liberals looking for fights no matter what you tell them.
 
DAIR said:
If a dude wants to do another dude in his spare time (and then perhaps marry that dude) then who are we to stop them.

I agree with my main man Obama. Alas, his latest views will no doubt anger the Christians...... and maybe even Black people......
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It will be very interesting in another 50 years where we are with this. I wonder how history will have represented Obama, and what the general consensus is of marriage.
 
Scougar said:
Personally I think that asking a religion to carry out weddings for gay couple's is wrong, when it is going against the religion. They have plenty of legitimate places to chose from, why chose a religious place?

Christianity view's homosexuality as a sin. That mean's generally speaking gays are still welcome in the Church, because it's just a sin.. and everyone sins every single day most likely. What wouldn't be acceptable would be attending a church when you have absolutely no intention of trying to change that sin I imagine, because it would be right in your face.

I would imagine there are Christian gays out there.

This thread has just turned into a hate fest anyway. Shame.
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... Are the Gay Christians aware of this?
 
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