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Mike306 said:
Very sad.

No lights, reflective clothing and been drinking. Can't blame the car driver this time.
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And on a viaduct without a hard shoulder, on a dark unlit dual carriageway late at night, with a gradual bend as well that would have concealed him from traffic's headlights.

Neither of them stood a chance :(
 
I commute on a bike and tbh whilst I feel sympathetic to his family, cycling like that on a road like that is simply irresponsible and ultimately only going to end one way.

I also thought the police handled it quite badly. Marching into the girls house, arresting her for dangerous driving seemed a little over the top without at least doing some preliminary investigation at the scene. It would not/did not take long to spot the lack of lights on his bike. Can it ever really be dangerous driving to hit a cyclist with no lights or reflectors on an unlit road at night?

Sad nonetheless.
 
I don't see that te policedid anything wrong. She had potentially killed a man !

And she wasn't charged, ,it's normal for the police to arrest somebody on the suspicion of something whilst they investigate.
 
Felt so sorry for that girl. She's going to have to live with the fact she killed someone - irrespective of the fact it wasn't her fault, it's going to haunt her (possibly) for the rest of her life.

It was a good episode though, to see how things are handled in different scenarios to normal.
 
Just watched last night's episode. As others have said, the cyclist accident is grim. I still think RIP to the cyclist, but it was extremely irresponsible of him to cycle like he had.

I disagree with 'The Darkness' above; I feel the police handled it as they should have. At the time, they had come across what looked to be a hit and run and leaving the scene of an accident is an offence. The interviewed PC stated that he had informed the girl she had hit and killed a person, and the girl "broke down, went into the back garden and was physically sick". She was then arrested for causing death by dangerous driving. In my view, this was the best way it could have been done. The driver (who admitted she was the one driving) is detained whilst the investigation is on-going, meaning the police do not have to go on a wild-goose chase should the driver decide they want to do a runner as well as being able to interview and establish an accurate picture more quickly.


It was completely right the girl was not charged for it; it will be hard enough to deal with knowing she has killed someone, accident or not. I'm not sure how/if I could handle that myself.
 
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WTF, she hits a guy and drives off and doesn't get charged??
I thought it was a offence for failing to stop at an accident? if shed have stopped and seen the bloke an ambulance may have got in time.
 
Abraxaz1 said:
WTF, she hits a guy and drives off and doesn't get charged??
I thought it was a offence for failing to stop at an accident? if shed have stopped and seen the bloke an ambulance may have got in time.
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She was driving at 70mph on an unlit dual carriageway in the middle of the night. He had no lights, no reflective gear, nothing. She didn't even realise she had hit a person until the police informed her - she thought she had hit an animal and stopped further down the road (Cars do not stop from 70mph in 0 feet).

What more could she have done?!

What should she be charged with?
 
[TW]Fox;21885486 said:
She was driving at 70mph on an unlit dual carriageway in the middle of the night. He had no lights, no reflective gear, nothing. She didn't even realise she had hit a person until the police informed her - she thought she had hit an animal and stopped further down the road (Cars do not stop from 70mph in 0 feet).

What more could she have done?!

What should she be charged with?
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could have pulled over on the hard shoulder contacted the police that she had hit something and waited for recovery as the car was un-driver able with the windscreen.
And last time I checked metal on metal (the bike) sounds a lot more different to flesh on metal.

Rider in wrong for not having adequate safety gear, driver in wrong for failure to stop
 
Glad she wasn't charged really! As a cyclist I make sure I'm visible with lights and my clothing has reflective pieces on it aswell.

I had to swerve to avoid a drunk cyclist in Glasgow at 3am. The sort that go about on older style bikes with no helmets on at all. I left him to it as he was weaving around and heading towards the off ramp of the M8.
 
Abraxaz1 said:
could have pulled over on the hard shoulder
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There was no hard shoulder at the point the impact occured. It was on a long viaduct.

Even if she had immediatly braked, hard, she would have pulled up clear of the impact point, where there was no hard shoulder, in the pitch black, with no lighting. She wouldn't even have been able to see the cyclist and thats after an emergency stop! She'd then have risked another accident as other cars came round the bend only to find a Mini parked in the inside lane.

contacted the police that she had hit something and waited for recovery as the car was un-driver able with the windscreen.
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The police were contacted within 30 minutes of the accident. She made no attempt to conceal it. She heard a bang, damaged the car, pulled over where safe, saw nothing around and called her boyfriend who brought the car home and then immediatly telephoned the police when he thought 'this could be serious'.

I really find it hard to see how you can criticise the family at all. You've no idea what it must feel like to be in such a position.

And last time I checked metal on metal (the bike) sounds a lot more different to flesh on metal.
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Most 24 year old girls have no idea what metal on plastic (The Mini has a plastic bonnet) sounds like compared to flesh on plastic, given they have likely hit neither flesh nor metal at 70mph before.
 
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[TW]Fox;21885644 said:
There was no hard shoulder at the point the impact occured. It was on a long viaduct.



The police were contacted within 30 minutes of the accident. She made no attempt to conceal it. She hard a bang, damaged the car, pulled over where safe, saw nothing around and called her boyfriend who brought the car home and then immediatly telephoned the police when he thought 'this could be serious'.

I really find it hard to see how you can criticise the family at all. You've no idea what it must feel like to be in such a position.




Most 24 year old girls have no idea what metal on plastic (The Mini has a plastic bonnet) sounds like compared to flesh on plastic, given they have likely hit neither flesh nor metal at 70mph before.
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Feeling have nothing to do with it, she fells bad boo bloody hoo.

The law clearly states that she has to inform the police of the accident as soon as possible, not once she drives home has a cupper after putting other drivers on the road at risk.

I bet after the viaduct there is a perfectly good lay-bys, in which she could have contacted the police and recovery, but she didn't.
If she had maybe just maybe the guy might be having regrets about being so stupid but i suppose well never know.

I just can't see how a clear as day rule seems to be completely ignored because she felt bad about it??

Ok wasn't her fault for hitting him, but she still had the responsibility to contact the police at the scene of the accident, or a safe location near by.
For all she knew her windscreen had covered the road in glass or plastic shards littered the 70 mph road, which could cause a massive accident in her wake.
There a reason why there's a law for reporting an accident, I just don't understand why it wasn't enforced in this clear case.
 
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