To supercharge or not to supercharge..
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This is the one I was talking about (which is a Vortech one I think, although I'm not sure which). I've located the V3 on their website (thanks for the link btw) and it does look like much less hassle to fit given the self-contained oil.
What exactly is a proper GTI then? Seeing as how the 2.8L 4motion is faster than a GTI of the same era.
I would have thought an S3 would have been the way to go too - if you put in that £4k plus the £1.5-2k the car is worth you should be able to find a car that's had a remap and some suspension mods done. You'll then have an out of the box car with approx 260bhp, still has the haldex 4wd, should be 6s or under - but more importantly you'll be able to recover a reasonable amount of the money if you have to.
It may need to be a pre facelift but if the lights bother you that much it's not greatly difficult to wire up a loom for the facelift units, I also still quite like the interior of the S3 even now.
It may need to be a pre facelift but if the lights bother you that much it's not greatly difficult to wire up a loom for the facelift units, I also still quite like the interior of the S3 even now.
I remember the days when 6 secs was considered very fast
The 4Mo is definitely a unique car. A bit walloy and not that fast when standard. But a lot of the R32 parts fit on it and it can be improved. The question, though, is whether it's worth spending the money on an older car.
Also bear in mind that a newer performanec car may be in a higher tax bracket.
How about an S3? Faster than the 4Mo, chippable, with Haldex too.
Or a mk1 TT 1.8T 225 for £4k and then spend £1k on suspension mods and chipping it.
The S3 looks pretty interesting actually. It's undoubtedly going to be a better car all round. Having said that though it's only a few tenths of a second faster and around £3000 for a 2000 model with plenty of miles on the clock so hardly a bargain buy. I guess it could depend on the performance gains possible from chipping them.. the other thing of course (presumably the reason it remaps well) is that it has a turbo which could throw up expensive bills.
The TT - aside from being a woman's car
p) - if I got one I'd have to get the convertible (as basically the only point in getting the coupé is to save money, and I'd regret it for ever), and the V6s are over £5k apiece. The 1.8T Quattro could be done though - although it's £3k for uber high mileage 2000 examples with not much choice.get onto edition 38 forums
normally a charger kit or 2 for sale there
pick up a 3.2 lump and drop it in, more or less a bolt in job, same block etc
set you back circa a grand for a known good lump and will gain you 45 bhp straight away
Thanks I'll look into it. How much would it be to buy and fit the 3.2L engine, do you know? As that was a potential option (but probably too expensive to be worth it).
This is a good point. Fitting a supercharger, unless getting the parts all second-hand (and probably removing them before sale to sell separately), is never going to add that much to the worth of the car
The S3 looks pretty interesting actually. It's undoubtedly going to be a better car all round. Having said that though it's only a few tenths of a second faster and around £3000 for a 2000 model with plenty of miles on the clock so hardly a bargain buy. I guess it could depend on the performance gains possible from chipping them.. the other thing of course (presumably the reason it remaps well) is that it has a turbo which could throw up expensive bills.
The TT - aside from being a woman's car
Thanks I'll look into it. How much would it be to buy and fit the 3.2L engine, do you know? As that was a potential option (but probably too expensive to be worth it).
to buy the engine your looking around a grand for a known good unit complete with ancilliries.
allow 18-20 hours labour to fit, but most garages would i imagine be accomadating in regards to price if you a pay cash and b dont need it back in a hurry. try asking around the forums for a known vw guru near you, i have a guy up here that would swap them over for £500
OR
sell yours for 1500
and buy this
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3893799.htm
add a decent exhaust, decat and a set of cams with the change and you'll have your 280 bhp
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to buy the engine your looking around a grand for a known good unit complete with ancilliries.
allow 18-20 hours labour to fit, but most garages would i imagine be accomadating in regards to price if you a pay cash and b dont need it back in a hurry. try asking around the forums for a known vw guru near you, i have a guy up here that would swap them over for £500
OR
sell yours for 1500
and buy this
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3893799.htm
add a decent exhaust, decat and a set of cams with the change and you'll have your 280 bhp
Unfortunately it's an automatic but nice thought
Hmm £1500 for an R32 engine.. presumably I'd be able to sell my own for £600-800? Or perhaps donate it to the engine swap guys in case they want to offer me free labour
Will have to ponder those options!
Fast and fun really arnt the same thing
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Please don't devalue your opinion still further by trying to convince everyone the Mk4 GTI was a proper GTI. Even VW admitted it wasn't.
It's a DSG, not a traditional auto. So it has flappy paddles
I had a try with an '09 Z4 3.0i a few months ago with flappy paddles. TBH I wasn't overly convinced by them. I know technically they're faster and give you the option of full auto for when you're lazy.. but I'm not sure I could live with them. Especially when manuals have lower maintenance costs.
The GTI really isn't what I'm after I'm afraid. It's too flashy on the outside and too slow under the hood.
Also, while there are many cars available for the money that are faster than the stock 4motion, I've yet to be directed towards a car that would be faster than a 280bhp 4mo for the money
Unfortunately there is no STi.. or rather, the 'STi' is not much faster, stock anyway
PS ever supercharged a Golf?
Also, while there are many cars available for the money that are faster than the stock 4motion, I've yet to be directed towards a car that would be faster than a 280bhp 4mo for the money
Any wrx Sti tbh
Though you then have to put up with the stigma attached to a scooby
Again if you had to sell you'd be selling a car that out the box performs at or close to that level so you wouldn't be chucking away a good portion of the cash
Edit* Thinking about it,
Mr2 turbo
Celica GT4
GTST skyline
Supra TT (ok pushing it, but maybe a stock one)
E36 M3
etc etc - the list goes on depending what your willing to look at / pay to maintain
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That was a conventional automatic, a DSG is an automated twin clutch manual.
Oh? What's the one in the new Z4s (my friend's just bought a 28i)? And what's the difference, excuse my ignorance, except that presumably a DSG can't be driven in Auto mode
Yeah I almost looked up the specs/second-hand situation but then realised there was no way I could drive around in an Impreza (or an Evo) unless it were a near new one (different shape)
Yeah I almost looked up the specs/second-hand situation but then realised there was no way I could drive around in an Impreza (or an Evo) unless it were a near new one (different shape)