No these guys make money from their own analysis, that's why you see them at university lectures instead of on Fox News and Russia Today, like Max Keiser and those sort of people who are basically entertainers.
Here we go again - banking crisis 2.0?
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No these guys make money from their own analysis, that's why you see them at university lectures instead of on Fox News and Russia Today, like Max Keiser and those sort of people who are basically entertainers.
all places with fully functioning economies and governments kwerk.
you're talking after major economic breakdown across several countries.
if there's no government in somalia for example now you can still hire american guards and pay them because they know they can spend the wealth back home.
in your scenario they can't, they've gone from a profit making motive to a survival motive. At that point rich guy becomes prey not employer.
Her dad was a holocaust denier. They are pretty damn far-right.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1578053/Le-Pen-found-guilty-of-Holocaust-denial.html
Like I said it will degrade to third world standards. It will still be a functioning country, there will just be massive crime and poverty, like in the third world.
A government overthrow could happen and things would still tick over. It's happened many times like the fall of the Soviet Union. Again, look up how rich guys made out from that.
Here's a clue (crawling with ex-military private security BTW):
They're certainly far right, Jean-Marie Le Pen was in the company of Neo Nazis, but I don't think it's right to call Marine Le Pen a neo-nazi. Part of the reason for the FNs popularity is that they've from the extreme right to the mainstream hard right.
If you re-read my post I never actually said neo-nazis are rising in France, all I said was the Front National was. I think it's fair to say the Greek guys are neo-nazis. The National Front is not far off though.
My point is it shows a huge uneasyness in Europe bubbling up. The fact that large numbers of people think the far-right and far-left are looking like legit options now.
Bottom line :
You've not got the faintest idea about anything, you're totally inaccurate in your explanations and anything coming from you is (poorly) regurgitated doom mongering from people who make a career in doom mongering.
However, some members and officials of the Front National Party of which she is President are effective exactly that.....expousing a revisionist agenda and virtually rewriting some of events in WW2. While the party itself has become more moderate in recent years it still expounses a Far-Right Authoritarian Populist Nationism, so while it may not be Neo-Nazi fascism by its standard definition, it is certainly related to the many of the ideologies that define Neo nazism.
It is a bit of a push to say Marine Le Pen is hardly a Neo-nazi.......she may not fit the definition and is politically savvy enough to distance herself from her fathers ideology and that of prominent FN officials regarding Policies, anti-Semitism, Revisionism and Holocaust denial (or at least minimalism thereof), but Fascism, or at least the Vichy French interpretation of it are at the very heart of the party she leads.
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Too right.
People should be scared of Greece. If they default, which is a definite possibility, then they'll likely drag down a lot of the big EU nations that are currently holding Greek paper.
I'm not running an election campaign for her - she's a ****. My point was that anything Kwerk refers to as supporting his case is inaccurate sweeping generalisations, figures out of context and completely wrong.
He said neo-nazis (and he used caps to emphasise this) got 20% in Greece. The shining path or whatever they were in Greece certainly are Neo-Nazis, however they got 7%, then he said he meant France but the party who got closer to that figure there aren't neo-nazis - certainly not in capitals.
Seems to be an argument over semantics tbh, either way we are seeing a rise in popularity of far-right politics in some European countries, this includes fascism. Kwerk may well be full of generalisations and exaggeration, but on occassion he does have a point, even if it is a little hidden in the rhetoric.
I doubt that it will amount to much as long as the centerist parties hold the mainstream, but it should be noted nonetheless.
No. It's me pointing out he hasn't got a clue what he's talking about.
Neo-nazis got 7% not 20%.
A hard right party in France got 20% of the vote. Not Neo-Nazis in Greece.
How is it inaccurate? Why don't you take us through the maths of how it's going to play out then?
Because the longer Bass video I posted does go through all the maths, so I don't have to try and post it myself. Just watch the video then make your criticisms. It's not doom mongering, it's people who have actually looked at the numbers and asked where the actual wealth is. The last few decades of "growth" has been a massive ponzi scheme.
I'm not just parroting doom mongers, I posted those videos because they succinctly describe what's happening better than I can myself. I've spent the last 5 years reading about this stuff every day with my morning coffee and i agree with their assessments. And i don't read prisonplanet.com, I read actual news and analysis and form my own opinions.
Go on... let's here your analysis? What do you believe is going to happen?
I already clarified my mistake in another post. The Greeks got 20 SEATS not percent.
France got close to 20 PERCENT.
Halk, you really have nothing to offer this thread except for pedantry.
He did say he made a mistake and corrected it though......we all do it from time to time and it doesn't mean we should dismiss the point he was making based on what amounts to mixing up the figures.
There is a rise in support for the Far Right, being pedantic over how Kwerk said that is a bit self defeating.
It wasn't a mistake. When you don't know something and say you don't know something and then go back and fill it in afterwards that's not a mistake. The %age of Greek neo-nazis is not a particularly big part of things though. I picked up on it because it was another illustration of Kwerk's shaky argument. It's the pair of you that have kept on about it.
Kwerk has no solid understanding of the issues - hell I don't have an entirely solid understanding and it's part of my job - he's just seem some fringe doomsayers who won't get any airtime unless they continue to be doomsayers and he's swallowed it all up as the only possible explanation.
Kwerk has no solid understanding of the issues - hell I don't have an entirely solid understanding and it's part of my job - he's just seem some fringe doomsayers who won't get any airtime unless they continue to be doomsayers and he's swallowed it all up as the only possible explanation.
I'm typing fast and I have the number 20 in my head and write percent instead of seats. WOW kwerk's argument is ruined!!! His brain doesn't even work!!
The number isn't even important. Even 7% neo-nazis is worrying.
My point was a large number of people are voting for extreme-right and extreme-left politicians!
You're still not offering anything to the thread other than your painfully obvious cognitive dissonance, which even Castiel can notice.
The number isn't even important. Even 7% neo-nazis is worrying.
My point was a large number of people are voting for extreme-right and extreme-left politicians!
You're still not offering anything to the thread other than your painfully obvious cognitive dissonance, which even Castiel can notice.
I am offering something to thread - I'm saying you haven't got a ****ing clue.
Just because I can point out that you don't have a clue doesn't mean I have my own explanation. I wouldn't dream of predicting what's going to happen.
PIIGS may default, they may not. It may or may not lead to a structured exit of the Euro. Nobody knows, anyone who claims to know is a liar or an idiot.
The effect of a Euro collapse would be very bad, but it wouldn't lead to the kind of ridiculous nonsense you're going on about.
That's all there is to say about it really.
Just because I can point out that you don't have a clue doesn't mean I have my own explanation. I wouldn't dream of predicting what's going to happen.
PIIGS may default, they may not. It may or may not lead to a structured exit of the Euro. Nobody knows, anyone who claims to know is a liar or an idiot.
The effect of a Euro collapse would be very bad, but it wouldn't lead to the kind of ridiculous nonsense you're going on about.
That's all there is to say about it really.