Famous people you are surprised are not gay

I think we should have a group hug, maybe take some clothes off, see how we feel.

Maybe listen to some music.

Relax.

e : horny music is all up in this junk!

 
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TommyV said:
But being in your face about it and camp really frustrates me. I don't go around making a massive point about being straight!
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You may not, but there are that do. The hetro alternative to the Graham Norton type is the wolf whistling, Nuts magazine reading, football mad type. The 'lads' that are portrayed in the WKD adverts for example are overtly straight people.

As much as Julian Clarey may annoy you, I'm sure he gets just as annoyed by the Blokey Bloke types who can't walk down the street without shouting "waheeyyy, show us your t**s show luv" at every female that walks near by.

It's like when someone sees two men kissing in the street and they say "I don't mind gays, but why do they have to shove it in your face" whilst conveniently ignoring the scores of heterosexual couples around them smooching as well. What they actually mean is, I wish they'd keep themselves in the closet and just pretend to be straight so I don't have to think about them being gay.
 
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TommyV said:
I've always said this.

If someone is gay, fine, whatever, no problem at all with that.

But being in your face about it and camp really frustrates me. I don't go around making a massive point about being straight!
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Why does overtly gay behaviour frustrate you?, I really don't care as a straight male.

I'm sure a gay person could say "I'm fine is somebody is straight, just I hate the way some of them push home a big point about how others act & trying to make everybody around them act straight" lol, also straight people do it just as much.

estebanrey said:
You may not, but there are that do. The hetro alternative to the Graham Norton type is the wolf whistling, Nuts magazine reading, football mad type. The 'lads' that are portrayed in the WKD adverts for example are overtly straight people.

As much as Julian Clarey may annoy you, I'm sure he gets just as annoyed by the Blokey Bloke types who can't walk down the street without shouting "waheeyyy, show us your t**s show luv" at every female that walks near by.

It's like when someone sees two men kissing in the street and they say "I don't mind gays, but why do they have to shove it in your face" whilst conveniently ignoring the scores of heterosexual couples around them smooching as well. What they actually mean is, I wish they'd keep themselves in the closet and just pretend to be straight so I don't have to think about them being gay.
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My thoughts exactly.

For the record, I find overtly gay or straight people annoying - if somebody's preference for boys/girls is the most prominent personality factor then I can't be bothered talking to them.
 
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estebanrey said:
You may not, but there are that do. The hetro alternative to the Graham Norton type is the wolf whistling, Nuts magazine reading, football mad type. The 'lads' that are portrayed in the WKD adverts for example are overtly straight people.

As much as Julian Clarey may annoy you, I'm sure he gets just as annoyed by the Blokey Bloke types who can't walk down the street without shouting "waheeyyy, show us your t**s show luv" at every female that walks near by.
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What a bizarre and quite frankly terrible post, i have never seen any guy in the street act this way unless it's late Friday/Saturday night and they're plastered. It's a stereotype the quite frankly doesn't exist and seems like you just made it up on the spot.

I had a few gay friends but they all played it straight and weren't camp at all, they were great to get along with. And i knew one guy at work who claimed to have a gf who worked as a chef but minced around in the campest way possible. The whole office wouldn't have cared but we all found it so amusing that he was just lying to himself

And if you think that the 'lads' portrayed in the WKD adverts are overtly straight then you must be a really sensitive sole because they're not being that alpha at all (I can think of loads of commericals were men act more Alpha) the WKD adverts show pretty avarage men.

It's like when someone sees two men kissing in the street and they say "I don't mind gays, but why do they have to shove it in your face" whilst conveniently ignoring the scores of heterosexual couples around them smooching as well. What they actually mean is, I wish they'd keep themselves in the closet and just pretend to be straight so I don't have to think about them being gay
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Again, (At least in London) there aren't 'scores' of heterosexual couples kissing in the street. Can't remember last time i saw one
 
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robgmun said:
What a bizarre and quite frankly terrible post, i have never seen any guy in the street act this way unless it's late Friday/Saturday night and they're plastered. It's a stereotype the quite frankly doesn't exist and seems like you just made it up on the spot.
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Whereas there are tons of effeminate Dale Winton types mincing around the streets?

I suspect you probably live in a fairly well off, middle class suburb if what I have suggested is so Alien to you, maybe you should hang around with a few more of the working classes and you'd be surprised.

I usually work in an office, but had to spend a week driving around with dustmen and every single truck I went in had at least one crew member who would comment on any half decent looking girl that walked by 'I'd give her one', 'Look at the t***s on that' etc etc), some even regularly wound their windows down to tell the lady what they thought.

If you don't think 'these people exist' you are naive. And you don't think WKD would waste hundreds of thousands on a campaign aimed at a demographic that didn't exist any more do you?

robgmun said:
I had a few gay friends but they all played it straight and weren't camp at all, they were great to get along with. And i knew one guy at work who claimed to have a gf who worked as a chef but minced around and the campest way possible. The whole office wouldn't have cared but we all found it so amusing that he was just lying to himself
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Which says all I need to know about your attitude. Some gay men should spend their lives 'acting' straight whilst anyone who's the slightest bit effeminate should just come out as gay even if they aren't?

robgmun said:
Again, at least in London they're aren't 'scores' of heterosexual couples kissing in the street.
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Nor are there scores of gay people but that wasn't my point was it? The fact is you probably wouldn't even remember seeing two straight people kissing but you would if you saw a gay couple doing it.
 
Morrisey claims he isn't gay.

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estebanrey said:
Whereas there are tons of effeminate Dale Winton types mincing around the streets?
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Never said there was?! :confused:

I suspect you probably live in a fairly well off, middle class suburb if what I have suggested is so Alien to you, maybe you should hang around with a few more of the working classes and you'd be surprised.
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I lived in Leytonstone for the first 25 years of my life. And i go all over London all the time. I'm from a working class background and all my friends bar one are working class, i just did well for myself.

I usually work in an office, but had to spend a week driving around with dustmen and every single truck I went in had at least one crew member who would comment on any half decent looking girl that walked by 'I'd give her one', 'Look at the t***s on that' etc etc), some even regularly wound their windows down to tell the lady what they thought.
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There's always one saddo through, you can't brand all stright people because one guy who's Forever Alone and looking at a hottie is all the action he'll ever have, that's more about being a gentleman.

If you don't think 'these people exist' you are naive. And you don't think WKD would waste hundreds of thousands on a campaign aimed at a demographic that didn't exist any more do you?
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The demographic they're aiming at are normal men, if you don't like it, deal with it! Sorry!

Which says all I need to know about your attitude. Some gay men should spend their lives 'acting' straight whilst anyone who's the slightest bit effeminate should just come out as gay even if they aren't?
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Gay men shouldn't act and fall into stereotypes at all. The gay men that i know play it fairly straight because that's there personalities. They just act normal. The camp thing is always an act they put on so they feel accepted as part of a community. That ones that act more normal actually can't stand the camp ones and it annoys them just as much as it annoys straight men. They've all admitted to me that at various times. Just be true to yourself and don't wear a mask.

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But there are loads of gays kissing in the street?
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Never said there was, what your point?
 
People think, rightly or wrongly, that campness is related to being gay because, honestly such a huge portion of people most people grow up with who were that camp, do come out as gay eventually.

There isn't anything wrong assuming it, if you know 10 kids who were really camp, and 20 years later 9 of them have "come out" how incredibly homophobic is it to assume the 10th one will eventually come out aswell... not at all, its simply experience.

Personally I've always seen being super camp as being, essentially the gay attention seeker personality, while a straight guy or straight girl "attention seeker" personality is rarely camp, just loud in other ways.

Is it right, wrong, weird, fake, who knows. People often "play" a part in life, I've known dozens of people who tend to be one way at parties/clubs/big groups, and are almost totally different people when its private or a small group of close friends. Camp seems to be a personality that I think gay people tend to play in life. One guy at uni, his nickname was Bear, he was huge, very camp, very loud and brash, yet was a very different guy when in small groups. With him it was certainly a case of the guy he is, and the guy he played, he knew that, talked about it and stemmed from being bullied for being gay at school. When he grew taller, he started playing up being gay, put on a personality and shoved it in peoples faces on purpose to spite those same bullies.

So, yeah, camp usually does mean gay, and most people think that because in 9/10 cases its true.
 
Cowell is definitely gay - its been known in media circles for years, as is Snoop Dogg amusingly! (The hip hop world is not a forgiving place for gay people surprisingly..).
John Travolta, was quite shocked about that one personally..

I realise my post is totally counter the OP's intention!

Id bet 50 cent is gay..
 
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robgmun said:
Never said there was?! :confused:

I lived in Leytonstone for the first 25 years of my life. And i go all over London all the time. I'm from a working class background and all my friends bar one are working class, i just did well for myself.

There's always one saddo through, you can't brand all stright people because one guy who's Forever Alone and looking at a hottie is all the action he'll ever have, that's more about being a gentleman.

The demographic they're aiming at are normal men, if you don't like it, deal with it! Sorry!

Gay men shouldn't act and fall into stereotypes at all. The gay men that i know play it fairly straight because that's there personalities. They just act normal. The camp thing is always an act they put on so they feel accepted as part of a community. That ones that act more normal actually can't stand the camp ones and it annoys them just as much as it annoys straight men. They've all admitted to me that at various times. Just be true to yourself and don't wear a mask.

Never said there was, what your point?
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OK we're losing the context of what I originally said now. The original post I was responding to was complaining about some gay men being camp, and that being camp was gay man's way of telling you he was homosexual (or shoving in your face as the original post stated).

My counter to that, is that when straight men act very straight they are not criticised in the same way and are not accused of shoving their heterosexuality down your throat which IMO is a double standard.
 
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