YEEHAH, the Redhead is goin' down!

estebanrey said:
And your question about what would a Minister for Animal Welfare do can be applied to the the Minister for Culture too, what does he do? Aren't the various sporting governing bodies anf arts councils looking after those areas?
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That's a ridiculous statement.

Why do you need a Home Secretary or a justice department when you have the police and CPS?

Why have the treasury department when you have HMRC?

Why have DEFRA when you have the Environment Agency, Forestry Commission, Natural England?

I think you miss the point what the department is for.
 
Hatter The Mad said:
In most people's opinion.

And lol at how uninformed you are. The DoC covers: telephony, broadband, TV licensing, radio licensing, theatre, sporting events, cultural events, historic properties, national trust liaison, museums, national ceremonies, all national sport, some design and planning policy, takes care of tourism, takes care of Internet issues.... among others.

Are you trying to tell me that most people aren't involved, reliant on or have an interest in any of the above?
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I am trying to say that all of those things above alreay have various governing bodies, regulators, funding schemes etc. It's not like Jeremy Hunt is personally responsible for the scheduling of the BBC on a saturday night or what they put on at the Royal Opera house.

And from what I see the CS has vey little sway with any of the organisations that do run them.

If we didn't have a CS, would all the paintings in the Museum Of Modern Art suddenly fall of the walls, would Thompsons forget how to sell a holiday? Would Carlos Tevez decide he's not going to play footbal....OK bad example, but I'm still at a loss as to what he actually does day to day.
 
estebanrey said:
I am trying to say that all of those things above alreay have various governing bodies, regulators, funding schemes etc
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Well, you're wrong about that, and missing the fact that none of those governing bodies are elected. Ministers are elected, and have ultimate control over broad policy.

It's not like Jeremy Hunt is personally responsible for the scheduling of the BBC on a saturday night or what they put on at the Royal Opera house.
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No ****.

If we didn't have a CS, would all the paintings in the Museum Of Modern Art suddenly fall of the walls, would Thompsons forget how to sell a holiday? Would Carlos Tevez decide he's not going to play footbal....OK bad example, but I'm still at a loss as to what he actually does day to day.
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Facepalm.
 
Pudney said:
Why do you need a Home Secretary or a justice department when you have the police and CPS?
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Someone needs to make the laws for the police to enforce.

Pudney said:
Why have the treasury department when you have HMRC?
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Same as above, HMRC are resposible for collecting taxes not setting them which is the treasury's job.

Pudney said:
Why have DEFRA when you have the Environment Agency, Forestry Commission, Natural England?
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I dunno, I'd scrap it personally.

Pudney said:
I think you miss the point what the department is for.
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Ocassionally giving soundbites on how abhorrent racism in football is and telling film companies to stop making independat films and concentrate on the next Harry Potter installment?

There is clearly a difference between a cabinet position that is responsible for setting laws and/or budgets than one that just seems to 'represent' the arts but has no power over it.
 
estebanrey said:
Also, call me cynical but why do I get the feeling these arrests are in part to make people forget the police were just as culpable in the phone 'hacking' scandal.
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I see your point but the public and vast majority of police want corrupt officers weeded out and I hope this investigation does that.

Cops who sell to the press are beneath contempt.
 
wildman said:
technically its not shoplifting if the store is closed and you just threw a dustbin through the window. That's called breaking and entering..................
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Well I didn't know. that! Derp. I mean the people that didn't do the breaking and entering yet got sentenced for taking a bottle of water from a shop that had been broken in to.
 
xibinim said:
Pfftt nothing will come of it.
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There have been people posting this from the start when SH first raised the issue about NotW and every time he posted an update...

You've all been wrong so far I'm glad to say :p

And I don't blame SH for being happy about this news, anyone would be happy with this level of vindication in something they feel so passionately about, which he obviously does.

Imagine how happy he will be if she actually does get convicted :D

burnsey2023 said:
lolstockhausen.
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Sad.... just sad...
 
The Old Etonian bosom pal of Cameron, D & Clarkson, J has just claimed that his wife is the victim of a "Witch Hunt" . . . I wonder if he has seen the front cover of the latest Private Eye :confused:

Incidentally, Private Eye has a humorous reference to Cameron & TXTspk:
Q. What does LOL stand for?
A. Lots of Lies!!

Q. And what does DC stand for?
A. Nothing at all!​

Ho, ho, ho, very satirical :D
 
stockhausen, why do you have such a hard-on for Eton and people who used to go there? There's nothing that special about it. You don't seem to prefix anyone else's name with their school, so why just Eton pupils?
 
The Daily Wail said:
Police were yesterday given a bag containing a computer, phone and paperwork found in a bin near the London home of Rebekah Brooks. Someone handed the items to security guards at the Chelsea Harbour complex of luxury apartments where she owns a £1.5million property. It is understood that Mrs Brooks’s husband Charlie tried to reclaim them, but could not prove they were his – and the guards called police instead.
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One source at the harbour complex said the bag was handed to security at around 3pm, and that shortly afterwards, Mr Brooks tried to reclaim it. Detectives are now examining footage from CCTV cameras in the car park to discover who dropped the bag. Mr Brooks’s spokesman denied the bag belonged to Mrs Brooks. ‘Charlie has a bag which contains a laptop and papers which were private to him,’ he said. ‘They were nothing to do with Rebekah or the [phone-hacking] case.’

He said Mr Brooks had left the bag with a friend who was returning it, but dropped it in the wrong part of the garage.
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HILARIOUS!

What a Tory tard ;)
 
arknor said:
im not expecting them to get any jailtime.

where as if i shoplifted i probably would get a few months in the big house........
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If they are found guilty then they're going to do a few years. Perverting the Course of Justice actually carries a Life sentence, since it undermines the entire Justice system.

In reality the average sentence is around 4 years, considering they're high profile people and the case is in the public interest it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they get the upper end of the average - that is if they're found guilty.

I suspect a few more people will end up in the dock, both Police Officers and Press - they've sold their souls and let down the public and deserve to be prosecuted. Definately has the potential to run and will be highly amusing if MP's and Government ministers end up in the mire :)
 
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