Do you ever think this

Does anyone else wonder how it's possible to have a finite fundamental particle? i.e Quarks.
SURELY THEY MUST BE MADE OF SOMETHING AND THAT SOMETHING MUST BE MADE OF SOMETHING ELSE.
Maybe I am trying to apply logic to particle physics and that doesn't work.
 
I don't think the OPs question deserves the approbation levelled out by OCUK. It's a question that a lot of greater thinkers have asked and struggled with.

In actuality we know that people have slightly different colour perception. Colour blindness, aside, there are multiple alleles for each of the three pigments used in colour perception, some of these respond to slightly different wavelengths of light. It is implausible that people with different pigments will have identical perceptions, I believe this has been experimentally tested but I don't have a reference handy.

Additionally, there is a yellowing of the lens as you age, so your perception of colour shifts as you grow older.

So there is some variation in how people perceive the same colour, the question is whether these can be big ol' red for green substitutions. I think the answer to this is 'no'. The efficacy of colour blindness tests requires that we perceive colours in a manner that preserves contrast; this means that most substitutional arrangements you can image would simply not work. Combine this with the fact that colour gradients are universally perceived as smooth and I think you can entirely rule out other colour schemes. I don't believe there have been any definitive studies carried out based on this idea though.

There was a whole horizon episode about this... the most interesting bit is the himba part, I can't remember the exact details but it seemed to suggest that they actually do see colours differently because of the colours that they see, use & name in their daily life - they had more difficulty distinguishing between certain colours that we can easily tell the difference between & vice versa for us.

Yeah, this is basically tosh.

If you have a name for a colour, you're better at remembering it. Makes sense, really, doesn't it? Instead of trying to remember a colour in abstract, you're now trying to remember a colour or a word - that's easier, so you're going to be better at remembering it.

Similarly the "differentiating" test is widely misinterpreted. What basically happens is you put up a bunch of coloured squares and ask "which one is different?" Then person A looks at the squares and goes "blue, blue, aquamarine - ah! The aquamarine is different" quick, there's the answer; person B goes "blue, blue, blue, huh? They're all blue, well, I guess that blue is more greeny, isn't it? They probably mean that blue, don't they?" a little slower.

Neither experiment provides compelling evidence of differences in colour perception. Were colour perception actually altered by the words used then you'd expect people to be unable to distinguish the colours - that isn't the case. What's more, if you give them tasks that rely on differences in colour but aren't asking them to look for differences, there is no difference in reaction time (for example if you showed them an aquamarine horse on a blue background and asked them what the picture showed, A & B would react in equal time).
 
It's a common phenomena/ paradox - Just like the fact we're mostly empty space yet you can't see through us, just like you can paint an infinite surface with a finite amount of paint . The fact that everything in the universe could be just mathematics since everything can be expressed that way and so on...
 
Like this one time that I saw a tree that I thought was a tree but to someone else it might not be a tree but they might still call it a tree?

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I don't think the OPs question deserves the approbation levelled out by OCUK. It's a question that a lot of greater thinkers have asked and struggled with.

That's OcUK forums for you. The implications of any remotely adequate answer to the OPs question is simply too much for us simple folk to bear. Oh the irony ...
 
Odd...you're quoting a post from Sawell and clicking on the button next to the quote goes back to one of their posts, but the text you're quoting is from me.

Oops, i think i accidentally used the multi-quote thing and must have deleted the wrong tag.
I have edited it correctly now :)
 
That the color red may seem red to you, but to the other person its a different color but they call it red?

Im just wandering that am i the only person that thinks this, it could be any color is well for e.g greem could be yellow to the other person but they call it green and you call it green because its green?


*sigh* .......no.

3 pages and no-one mentions the great man...


http://www.philosophyonline.co.uk/oldsite/pom/pom_behaviourism_wittgenstein.htm

RIP :(

also for background

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_language_argument
 
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This kind of confusion is why I only describe colours by their appropriate hex code now. It does cause some slight issues in casual conversation but nothing a handy flip-out colour chart can't resolve.

i.e. Pass me my mug, it's the D29680 one with the 8D18AB stripes. Thanks!
 
This is a very interesting subject that can be expanded on...

ME as a person seeing colours different from everyone else is very different however what if EVERYTHING im seeing and experiencing in life is different from everyone else. What if my perception of every sense is different from you and its our Brains which covert this for us.
 
That the color red may seem red to you, but to the other person its a different color but they call it red?

Im just wandering that am i the only person that thinks this, it could be any color is well for e.g greem could be yellow to the other person but they call it green and you call it green because its green?

Yes I do, especialy when I was younger.
 
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