Supplements / Vitamins - waste of time??

Another good way to reduce or even completely eliminate joint pain is to take into consideration your choice of carbohydrates. Worked for me.
 
Another good way to reduce or even completely eliminate joint pain is to take into consideration your choice of carbohydrates. Worked for me.

what do you mean choice of carbohydrates? elimate sugar? low glycemic only?

I know insulin resistance can trigger inflammation which would makes joints hurt.
 
take supplements and Vitamins and workout, so you can see results.

otherwise yes, it is a waste of money, if your food is healthy. take them but cycle off (2-8 weeks) every 3-6 months depends on your daily usage.
 
I've just read a very timely tweet by Dr Christian after someone asked about vitamin supplements...
"Some are toxic if taken in excess."

Make of that what you will
 
Meh.

I'm a student, I have a rubbish diet.

And I don't feel any worse than before uni.

The only thing I take is No Xplode, as it helps me run and revise.
 
since i turned 40, i have been back at the gym, looking after myself a bit more.

I now take whey protien and cod liver oil daily, my concentration has improved, and my body just seems to be much happier.

i sleep well now, not as anger prone. and in general, a nicer guy to be around

well, so the wife tells me ;)
 
Varied diet and everything in moderation + exercise is what you need not some shortcut because it is an easy option.
 
The reason the recommendation in the UK is for "five a day" is that they knew if they made it any higher (as it should be) nobody would aspire to reach the target... they'd just give up. In Japan it's apparently 10 a day .

You sound like a carb/sugar addict trying to justify his addiction, 5 let alone 10 fruit and veg servings a day are absolutely not required for good health/longevity.
 
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You sound like a carb/sugar addict trying to justify his addiction, 5 let alone 10 fruit and veg servings a day are absolutely not required for good health/longevity.

Science disagrees with you. Who am I going to trust, the NHS, or some faceless keyboard warrior on the Internet. Oh dear, you lose.
 
From all the stuff I have read, the only things that seem to have a noticeable effect are fish-oils (in much larger dosage than people think they need) and glucosamine.
 
Balanced diet with all food groups covered and there is no need for the supplement! Although Creatine is natural it is not natural to pump your body full of it, I am in no way a purest just don't see the need, Look to professional sports men and women that bang down supplements and creatine like its proper food. Many of whom have suffered for there super strength and body tone! Whats the point in being super fit if its still going to kill you?

Who has suffered from creatine supplementation and who wolfs it down like its a proper food?
In what way is being super fit going to kill you any more than any other level of fitness?
 
From all the stuff I have read, the only things that seem to have a noticeable effect are fish-oils (in much larger dosage than people think they need) and glucosamine.

There's a lot more to read about fish oils. Short term trials (less than 2 years) have shown some benefits. But longer trials (5 years ish) have potentially shown some harm. It's not exactly clear if long term fish oil supplementation is a good thing or not.

As for glucosamine working... you're simply reading the wrong things. Glucosamine simply doesn't work as claimed.
 
I kept getting sick after exercising (I go to the gym 5 times a week - think I was overdoing it), even though my diet was pretty good. Started taking a multivitamin and I haven't been sick since (going from being sick 5 times in 3 months, to 0 time in 4 months). I think it's likely that the vitamins helped boost my immune system.
 
As someone who suffered malabsorbtion for about 6 years (still repairing!) trust me you will know when you need suplements, and by then the OTC multivits arent going to help at all

The symptoms arent that subtle when they start stacking up!
 
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even proffessional athletes don't need to take supplements if they're eating properly.

As was already mentioned, the only reason it's 5 a day recommended in the UK/USA is no one would eat 9 a day for men, 7 for women that it actually should be so they try to get people to eat 5 a day instead of 0 a day.

If you eat a well balanced diet encompassing lots of fish, 7/9 fruit or veg a day, whole grains, nuts, a reasonable amount of meat and carbs, keep horrible processed foods to a minimum then you'll never need a supplement in your life, bar serious medical conditions. Plus by the sounds of what people spend on creatine and Amino acids it's a hell of a lot cheaper and you'll be getting all the other things that are in food but not supplements.

That and a decent amount of exercise is easy to do even on a low budget and will have significant health benefits.
 
even proffessional athletes don't need to take supplements if they're eating properly.

As was already mentioned, the only reason it's 5 a day recommended in the UK/USA is no one would eat 9 a day for men, 7 for women that it actually should be so they try to get people to eat 5 a day instead of 0 a day.

If you eat a well balanced diet encompassing lots of fish, 7/9 fruit or veg a day, whole grains, nuts, a reasonable amount of meat and carbs, keep horrible processed foods to a minimum then you'll never need a supplement in your life, bar serious medical conditions. Plus by the sounds of what people spend on creatine and Amino acids it's a hell of a lot cheaper and you'll be getting all the other things that are in food but not supplements.

That and a decent amount of exercise is easy to do even on a low budget and will have significant health benefits.

Whey protein is arguably cheaper and more convenient than food in many cases. And creatine supplementation can't really be recreated by eating food. There is a measurable significant benefit to creatine supplementation beyond doses that food can provide. But it's nothing major, like 3g a day for something that costs just over £10 for almost a year supply. It's cheap and backed by numerous scientific studies. Creatine has applications beyond your average gym rat, a lot of the recent research has focused on the elderly. Creatine has been shown improve strength and fitness in the elderly, and improve cognitive performance in those deficient in dietary creatine intake (something only really the elderly and some vegans suffer from).

Much of the same can be said for whey protein supplementation. I'm not talking about expensive isolated amino acids, or whatever. I'm just talking about left over dairy product. It's cheap. £40 for 5kg and it lasts months. A very cheap and convenient way to up protein intake for people that no how to get the benefit from. You can certainly get all your protein requirements from food, but it's not always the most cost effective and convenient.
 
Science disagrees with you. Who am I going to trust, the NHS, or some faceless keyboard warrior on the Internet. Oh dear, you lose.

Lol! The human body is designed to run on fats and proteins, our digestive systems are designed to breakdown and assimilate fats and proteins. Stuffing our faces with sugar and cellulose fibre isn't ever going to makes us healthy. You and the NHS can carry on spouting this 5 a day **** all you like, truth is, neither you nor they have got much of a clue! Lol! You lose!
 
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