Following that logic, the minority of people who have suffered injury in a car accident and lived is worse than the minority who were decapitated in each incident
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Following that logic, the minority of people who have suffered injury in a car accident and lived is worse than the minority who were decapitated in each incident
Lol OK.
Take a look on this forum, quite a few people are sending their cards back because of this problem. Kribby2006 has sent his back and is now going to get an at I card, which will be his first at I card. So for some this problem is bad enough for them to send the card back and go for an alternative brand. This for some people is a deal breaker on nvidias flagship cards.
If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend its only a minor problem, knock yourself out. At least the guys working on the dsr/Roma departments will be getting some overtime in
Take a look on this forum, quite a few people are sending their cards back because of this problem. Kribby2006 has sent his back and is now going to get an at I card, which will be his first at I card. So for some this problem is bad enough for them to send the card back and go for an alternative brand. This for some people is a deal breaker on nvidias flagship cards.
If you want to stick your head in the sand and pretend its only a minor problem, knock yourself out. At least the guys working on the dsr/Roma departments will be getting some overtime in
In English?? 
It IS a minor problem. One user sending it back doesn't prove anything. I could dig out an AMD user who's done the same if you like?! Of course not: it's pointless so you pointing that out doesn't say anything
You're getting bogged down in individual details and not seeing the larger picture....
p.s. for your information: ALXAndy sold his due to 'rubbish drivers'.
Does this prove anything other than that you are digging up irrelevancies? No. Not really.
It IS a minor problem. One user sending it back doesn't prove anything. I could dig out an AMD user who's done the same if you like?! Of course not: it's pointless so you pointing that out doesn't say anything
You're getting bogged down in individual details and not seeing the larger picture....
p.s. for your information: ALXAndy sold his due to 'rubbish drivers'.
Does this prove anything other than that you are digging up irrelevancies? No. Not really.
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It IS a minor problem. One user sending it back doesn't prove anything. I could dig out an AMD user who's done the same if you like?!
Or I could pick out a few if needed? The point being, this is a minor problem (look at the 6XX games that stutter thread) and if we all sent cards back because of minor problems, 99% would return them.
I had problems galore with TDR issues with my 560 and for a few months I could not see a fix but a voltage tweak and problem solved. I was glad I stuck with the card as it proved to be a great assett in the end.
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But arn't some people still suffering from TDR with 560's?
Not sure. I just know after trying many things which would help, The voltage boost bios sorted it out for me. My case was my Gigabyte 560ti was running with voltage too low.
But it's not just one user though, and Andy does prefer Nvidia's setup as well which was a deal clincher for him- used 7970 for 2x new Evga 480's.
There will always be users that get a gpu only to swap it for another due to drivers/not liking the feel of the card be it Nvidia or Amd.
The fact of the matter is there is a problem with the 6 series, be it large or small, leaving some users rma'ing cards because of the fault and/or simply not willing/bothered to take the chance and changing cards be it going to Amd or back to 580's or whatever, some will also be put off from buying in the first place which could mean jumping ship to AMD.
The official thread over at Nvidia's forum and other forums has a lot of folks handing there 6 series back, with a few from here too.
As said, zero core/sleep problems are exactly that, it's problems outwith gaming , if it was causing games not to play as they should, that would be a whole bigger issue, it's simply not a game changing fault like the stuttering problem is, but hopefully there will be a proper fix soon.
The hot clocking is untested in the long run, I really do hope it's not a long term issue, as the feature is tremendous imo, hopefully it doesn't impact longevity of the cores, vrms etc, time will tell.
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As he said, he can live with it though, but others won't, it's down to the individual's circumstance.
You lived with the TDR problem, others were/are cracking up with it, plus you can't dsr/return something a month or so later in the UK without a bucket load of grief.
What happened to the fanboy thread yesterday gregster, I went out and a couple of hours later it was gone, did it get nasty or just deleted?
You lived with the TDR problem, others were/are cracking up with it, plus you can't dsr/return something a month or so later in the UK without a bucket load of grief.
What happened to the fanboy thread yesterday gregster, I went out and a couple of hours later it was gone, did it get nasty or just deleted?
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It just got deleted, one minute it was there, next it was gone kapoof
This guy is showing how the stuttering is happening. He goes from 120hz to 60hz at 4:00 if you want to skip the 120hz playing.
Not what I would call a game killer but I imagine it could be frustrating.
As for the Fanboy thread Tommy, I am glad it got deleted. The guy was such a Fan but kept claiming he was Neutral. At least I am honest when I slate AMD for being an NVIDIA fanboy
Thanks for the info guys, could have just closed it if it didn't kick off, there has been blazing arguments in other threads for them just to be closed with offending threads deleted.
Hmm, the stuttering must be starting to impact on sales then.
Saw that video last week, it doesn't show anything apart from the fps drop, nothing you can see from a 30fps video regarding the stutter though.
Hmm, the stuttering must be starting to impact on sales then.
Saw that video last week, it doesn't show anything apart from the fps drop, nothing you can see from a 30fps video regarding the stutter though.
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That thread was not good as it was just asking for the Fanboys from both sides to let rip. We don't need help with that and we deffo don't need a thread promoting that.
I guess as he says you don't notice it on a 30fps video, I saw his framerate drop to 58 but couldn't see any stutter in the videos
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This guy is showing how the stuttering is happening. He goes from 120hz to 60hz at 4:00 if you want to skip the 120hz playing.
Not what I would call a game killer but I imagine it could be frustrating.
As for the Fanboy thread Tommy, I am glad it got deleted. The guy was such a Fan but kept claiming he was Neutral. At least I am honest when I slate AMD for being an NVIDIA fanboy
Stop acting the patriot, the thread made you act (which was part of the purpose of the thread) to actually do something about the issue rather than mulling over it for a bit.
I am Neutral, have no reason to be bias, and not once criticised Nvidia or AMD. As the thread was directed at the false unpopular opinion actively spread by people like yourself, yes then I guess it would have been more directed towards, and/or more relevant to individuals such as yourself.
Its a shame you openly admit calling yourself a fanboy really, it diminishes competitive discussion and production, and actively promotes false oppinion.
I said within your thread 'keep up the good work', but fail to see how you would have even started it without a kick (provided by the thread). I told people to start testing and collaborating within the thread to help solve the problem, and instead of concentrating on AMD concerns to solve your own issues (rather than simply RMA'ing the product)....
If you cannot read an unbiased article without tinted glasses, please do not comment. I am truely glad you are working to help fix the issue and hope it does get fixed.
Nvidia wont recall all products, they will find a way to fix it. It is just a shame that they do not do so with more urgency. If it is Bios dependent then there will be flash-fixes.
Maybe it is more prominent on 120hz monitors? Another variable to consider.
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But it's not just one user though, and Andy does prefer Nvidia's setup as well which was a deal clincher for him- used 7970 for 2x new Evga 480's.
There will always be users that get a gpu only to swap it for another due to drivers/not liking the feel of the card be it Nvidia or Amd.
The fact of the matter is there is a problem with the 6 series, be it large or small, leaving some users rma'ing cards because of the fault and/or simply not willing/bothered to take the chance and changing cards be it going to Amd or back to 580's or whatever, some will also be put off from buying in the first place which could mean jumping ship to AMD.
The official thread over at Nvidia's forum and other forums has a lot of folks handing there 6 series back, with a few from here too.
A long way to pretty much post exactly as I have been saying but worded in a way that you disagree?
I never said it was one user. If you re-read I was just saying how pointless it is to quote one user as the bigger picture needed to be considered.
Spot on.
A long way to pretty much post exactly as I have been saying but worded in a way that you disagree?
I never said it was one user. If you re-read I was just saying how pointless it is to quote one user as the bigger picture needed to be considered.
You mentioned it's pointless showing single users to then edit your post to point it out yourself.
I'm in disagreement with you over folks changing cards in general due to driver problems, where as the stutter problem imo is a bigger problem in general, hence my counter reference to Andy, somebody who didn't know the history behind it would perceive it wrongly.
The bigger picture is Nvidia's stutter fault, whether you or others don't have the problem, elsewhere outwith OcUK, lots are, which is losing Nvidia customers in one way or another.
AMD's much publicised driver failings bare no resemblance to the topic at hand which you have pointed out a few times prior to my comment in reply elsewhere in this thread.
When one card has a problem, would it be such a hassle to talk about it rather than deflect the point at hand?
Wrong way to go about it chilipeppersc, sorry I asked about it now tbh, as I wasn't wanting anything to kick off which is looking like it will!
Leave it out please, I realised the point of your thread was but as I said it's the wrong way to go about it, you should go and start a less baiting thread instead please.
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