2 years in jail for London riots driver

Is it because she's rich and we can in some way (not very much) feel sorry for the poor doing it.

Is it because if there's one thing I hate it's rich activists. On just about anything?
 
In two minds:

A) She deserves it really. Spoilt kid deciding to get one over on "the man", who hasn't done her a day's disservice in her life that she hasn't brought on herself. You also have to laugh at her "being afraid of her passengers". How about just don't do it, love, eh?

B) Is prison time REALLY necessary for someone who is quite obviously at close to zero risk of offending, nor of posing any threat to the public at large? I thought prison was about rehabilitation, not punishment.
 
Have mixed feelings about this one - on the one hand she seems to have somewhat been made an example on the other hand she may have been just as involved as the rest of the people involved its hard to say really.

Its far easier to be self righteous and say "you should have just left them" when your not actually in the situation yourself. I'm somewhat tempted to empathise with her position but on the other hand don't know all the facts and she may just be using it as an excuse.
 
Well, for B it's about making it clear there's a penalty for criminal activity. It doesn't deter everybody, but it works on the majority of us who have careers, family, friends we don't want to be ashamed of us.

I'm not too impressed with the glee I read that with which is why I posted the thread. I try to be fair about things, rational, liberal etc, but I'm pretty smug about this.
 
[FnG]magnolia;22001971 said:
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Is this true?

Wait, correction.

The fine would be within a statutory limit but the repayment is means tested.

If you are unemployed and on benefits then they could reduce your benefits by say £10 a month until it is repaid etc.
 
Wait, correction.

The fine would be within a statutory limit but the repayment is means tested.

If you are unemployed and on benefits then they could reduce your benefits by say £10 a month until it is repaid etc.

Hmm. I understood they could reduce due to circumstance but didn't know it was possible to increase due to circumstance.

HEY MOM I GONE DONE LEARNED A THING TODAY!
 
I can't stand 'example' punishment.

It shouldn't be legal. Just as prior convictions aren't read out in court because the defendant is either guilty or not guilty regardless of his past. The fact this occurred in the summer riots should have no bearing on the verdict or subsequent consequence.
 
Dunno sometimes for the public good an example punishment doesn't go amiss i.e. coming down hard on some of the people who really did go out and cause trouble themselves.

Handing out what is essentially an example punishment to someone who at best appears to have been involved by association seems pretty harsh, if the facts are as they appear she was more deserving of being reprimanded maybe community service.
 
And yet there are probably others that deserved as much that won't be receiving such punishment.

What she did was still wrong mind you, I know it's impossible to "punish" everyone that was involved in those riots. It does feel a tad like she's being made an example of, though.
 
[FnG]magnolia;22002010 said:
Hmm. I understood they could reduce due to circumstance but didn't know it was possible to increase due to circumstance.

HEY MOM I GONE DONE LEARNED A THING TODAY!

Nooo, the repayment would be means tested but actual fine would be within statutory limits, and according to the crime.
 
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