Pay your taxes you scum - doesn't apply to tax-dodging millionaires or corporations.

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Christine Lagarde has said that she has no sympathy for the Greeks and that they should pay their taxes.

I haven't seen any reference to her feeling the same antipathy towards the likes of Boots, Vodafone, Amazon, the Arcadia Group or any number of tax-dodging exiles such as Murdoch and Ashcroft.
 
Yeah, damn those people who are paying only the tax they are legally obliged to, rather than the made up amount created by people who don't understand tax accountancy...
 
stockhausen said:
Christine Lagarde has said that she has no sympathy for the Greeks and that they should pay their taxes.

I haven't seen any reference to her feeling the same antipathy towards the likes of Boots, Vodafone, Amazon, the Arcadia Group or any number of tax-dodging exiles such as Murdoch and Ashcroft.
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hows the hunt for the Amazon Kindle case going you big hypocrite? ;) clearly by buying their products you advocate their business means :rolleyes:
 
It's amazing how some of these giant corps get away with their tax dodging schemes - setting up bogus offices in Luxembourg or wherever just to launder their money to avoid tax in the UK. Yet if a small business or an individual tried it you can bet that the tax people would be onto them in a shot.
 
stockhausen said:
Christine Lagarde has said that she has no sympathy for the Greeks and that they should pay their taxes.

I haven't seen any reference to her feeling the same antipathy towards the likes of Boots, Vodafone, Amazon, the Arcadia Group or any number of tax-dodging exiles such as Murdoch and Ashcroft.
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just remember...

WE ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER
 
While you may think it's morally objectionable to move your headquarters from the UK to Luxembourg in order to pay corporation tax on just £147m of your £3.2bn (UK-based) turnover in 2010; technically they aren't doing anything illegal, as it's tax avoidance and the company accountants wouldn't be doing their job properly if they didn't implement it.

However, the Greeks are losing €15bn a year through tax evasion — individuals earning €900,000 a year living in the most exclusive suburbs of Athens are covering their swimming pools to avoid detection by helicopter in order to convince the authorities that they are only earning €30,000 a year.

Can't you see it's a completely different situation. :p ;)
 
Dolph said:
Yeah, damn those people who are paying only the tax they are legally obliged to, rather than the made up amount created by people who don't understand tax accountancy...
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Except it's not just a case of it being legal so it's therefore ok. It's not black and white no matter how much you want it to be.

A third position is in which tax avoiding is legal but embarked on through artificial restructuring of commercial activities or employing various tax instruments against the spirit in which they were intended.

The above often known as 'tax avoision' or immoral tax avoidance. Now you'll predictably whine and moan at the use of morality here, but it no doubt is proven by the lengths that companies and individuals go to hide it.

'Tax avoison' needs to be stamped out quick: as soon as we have a government that isn't purely beholden to big business and wealthy individuals.
 
stockhausen said:
Christine Lagarde has said that she has no sympathy for the Greeks and that they should pay their taxes.

I haven't seen any reference to her feeling the same antipathy towards the likes of Boots, Vodafone, Amazon, the Arcadia Group or any number of tax-dodging exiles such as Murdoch and Ashcroft.
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What you have shown there, is a basic lack of understanding of the tax system.

Greek people just don't pay tax, whereas corporations pay as much tax as they need to.
 
stockhausen said:
Christine Lagarde has said that she has no sympathy for the Greeks and that they should pay their taxes.

I haven't seen any reference to her feeling the same antipathy towards the likes of Boots, Vodafone, Amazon, the Arcadia Group or any number of tax-dodging exiles such as Murdoch and Ashcroft.
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People pay the tax they're asked to pay? It's not tax dodging if you're except for a particular reason is it?
 
wozzizname said:
It's amazing how some of these giant corps get away with their tax dodging schemes - setting up bogus offices in Luxembourg or wherever just to launder their money to avoid tax in the UK. Yet if a small business or an individual tried it you can bet that the tax people would be onto them in a shot.
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This just shows what you don't know about the administration of setting up such a scheme. Of course small companies or individuals could do it and not have issues. The issue is could they actually legitimately run their business from Luxembourg? Because that's what big companies actually have to do. If not then the revenue are on them like a rash.
 
You know, something I've been thinking for a while is that the only place I ever see the word Scum is on ocuk. it's used so much I automatically dismiss any threads that contain it. Odd.
 
wannabedamned said:
People pay the tax they're asked to pay? It's not tax dodging if you're except for a particular reason is it?
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As Floogie says, it's simply not as black and white as this.

In the case of Amazon (using 2010 figures):

The Luxembourg office employed 134 people, but generated turnover of €7.5bn (£6.5bn). In the same year, the UK operation employed 2,265 people and reported a turnover of just £147m. According to the SEC filings, UK sales that year were between £2.3bn and £3.2bn.

It's clever business and it's not Amazon's fault if the loopholes are there to allow them to play the system, but if you believe that then you can't use the opposite argument against the Greek individuals that find ways to play the Greek system.
 
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