*** The 2012 Gym Rats Thread ***

[elmarko]

.....Still not getting it

Start like this:

Then finish like this:



With less of a facial expression mind

I know those two phases , it's the bit in-between I'm asking about.

In picture one his wrists are facing down.

In picture two his wrists are facing up.

A movement was done to transition between these two, this is the part I'm unsure of in the form - I pick it up the same as in pic one & just before I do my press I'm the same as pic two.

It's the movement just before pic two I'm asking about.

 

[Morba]

I know those two phases , it's the bit in-between I'm asking about.

In picture his wrists are facing down.

In picture two his wrists are facing up.

A movement was done to transition between these two, this is the part I'm unsure of in the form - I pick it up the same as in pic one & just before I do my press I'm the same as pic two.

It's the movement just before pic two I'm asking about.

There is no movement just before. The clean is from floor to shoulders. Not floor to chest to shoulders

 

[Delvis]

Snip

^^^^

 

[elmarko]

Double post.

 

[elmarko]

Cheers! -

I'll have to watch a few more vids on-line to see the one motion then..., my main concern was the flip of the bar (which I'll have to watch vids to see how it's done in the one motion).

^^^^

Thanks also Delvis.

I'll watch those on the phone later (at work & having computer trouble at home atm) - so no you-tube/limited net, kinda what's made it hard to find out over the weekend as normally I'd be hitting 100 youtube vids to find out.

 

[MoNkeE]

It's all about using the momentum from the clean to rearrange your wrist positioning. You should be getting your wrists up under the bar whilst the bar is still travelling upwards, so there's no pressure on your wrists. Then once the bar loses momentum, your wrists should already be in position, and you're ready to bend your knees, and catch the bar on to the front of your shoulders

 

[elmarko]

It's all about using the momentum from the clean to rearrange your wrist positioning. You should be getting your wrists up under the bar whilst the bar is still travelling upwards, so there's no pressure on your wrists. Then once the bar loses momentum, your wrists should already be in position, and you're ready to bend your knees, and catch the bar on to the front of your shoulders

Thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for.

I (wrongly) assuming that using momentum was a bad idea - so did it in a split controlled move (which put too much pressure on the wrists on the flip - as I raised it to the chest slowly).

 

[MoNkeE]

I've posted it before so I'm sure he won't mind me linking it again, but here is FreeFaller's power clean to push press. Now obviously when you're doing your Overhead Pressing, you don't want to be driving from your legs, but getting the bar in position will be the same.

 

[Ultra_Extreme]

you pretty much stop lifting as the bar passes your chest, by this point it should have the momentum to come up level with your face and you can catch it on your shoulders. With FF's lifts in that vid he drops below the bar powerlifter style, this isnt really necessary for rep-able weight imo only for heavy powerlifting and only adds complexity that a newbie shouldnt need

 

[icecold]

...and it should absolutely not be an upright row to the chest and then some kind of reverse wrist curl at the top. I suspect that's more like what you did to hurt your wrist.

Your arms should be floppy by the time the bar passes your waist.

 

[Deception]

Debating whether to take out Squats from Wednesday workout, so I can have a go at Deadlifts without being fatigued from Squats first (On Stronglifts btw).

It would end up with Just Overhead Press and Deadlifts then, so what else could I add in? was thinking of adding in Ab Rollouts and planks for core work too.

I dont know if it will be a permanent change or just an attempt and seeing what numbers I can get.. Although if i do change it, it wont be Stronglifts anymore

 

[icecold]

Or, and this is a fairly crazy out of left field suggestion, do deadlifts first...

 

[MoNkeE]

Awaits the "but then I'll be tired for squatting!" reply

 

[Kimi]

On the 5x5 Stronglifts, im on the stage of the 40kg squat, now, i can do this, and i fixed the problem of the bar hurting my neck, but the problem i have now is, i have to clean lift the 40kg from the floor, overhead press it so i can lower it down behind my head, squat, overhead press to get it back in front of me, then lower the weight to the floor.

I need to buy a squat rack

 

[MoNkeE]

Yes, yes you do!

e: In fact if it were me in that position, I'd be doing front squats. It's possible for me to clean 75kg to my shoulders and squat that, but I wouldn't be able to clean and back squat 75kg!

 

[reiyushin]

 

[reiyushin]

That should solve your problem

 

[Chong Warrior]

On the 5x5 Stronglifts, im on the stage of the 40kg squat, now, i can do this, and i fixed the problem of the bar hurting my neck, but the problem i have now is, i have to clean lift the 40kg from the floor, overhead press it so i can lower it down behind my head, squat, overhead press to get it back in front of me, then lower the weight to the floor.

I need to buy a squat rack

Nah, I wouldn't bother with a squat rack. When you're lifting bigger weights than opt for a powercage

For now build your strength up with other variants of the squat such as goblet squats, single leg, front squats. There's also deadlifts.

 

[Kimi]

Ah cool, power sages are quite expensive and i dont really have the space for that, a couple of mobile squat post things would be ok tho, ill take a look at the goblet squats, single leg & front squats, im doingdead lifts as a part of the 5x5 Stronglifts

 

[Zefan]

On the 5x5 Stronglifts, im on the stage of the 40kg squat, now, i can do this, and i fixed the problem of the bar hurting my neck, but the problem i have now is, i have to clean lift the 40kg from the floor, overhead press it so i can lower it down behind my head, squat, overhead press to get it back in front of me, then lower the weight to the floor.

I had exactly the same problem and I overcame it by doing the steinborn lift. Only problem was that all the buildings where I was were ISO container height, so not really tall enough to properly do it... I'm not sure how I managed to pull it off without injuring myself!

Doing that should last you a few more weeks.