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knew you would be straight on here to grumble. you're moaning won't be missed. The people vote what they want to vote. Metro is the most popular BF3 map, for many reasons, some good some bad. We don't have a "trash map rotation" we have a vote system, at the time we had 3 on teamspeak, 2 voted metro and 1 voted firestorm, so don't even go down that road. i'm sure you saw that most of the server cheered when you said you were leaving.... THAT is how bad you moaned and cried like a spoilt kid who did not get what he wanted from mummy. seriously grow up.

Jimlad you never used to be like this, had my upmost respect!

But ever since you've become a 247 admin anything bad said about the server in anyway is met with hostility.

Why?

Me though I haven't played Battlefield 3 in ages now and I'm all the better for it :cool:
 
knew you would be straight on here to grumble. you're moaning won't be missed. The people vote what they want to vote. Metro is the most popular BF3 map, for many reasons, some good some bad. We don't have a "trash map rotation" we have a vote system, at the time we had 3 on teamspeak, 2 voted metro and 1 voted firestorm, so don't even go down that road. i'm sure you saw that most of the server cheered when you said you were leaving.... THAT is how bad you moaned and cried like a spoilt kid who did not get what he wanted from mummy. seriously grow up.

I really care not for your opine on the subject.

You are not around when the server goes from full to almost empty after Metro runs 4 times in a row and is moving onto the fifth. Where half the server cannot vote something different because it only takes 4 muppets to vote for Metro and it outweighs any other combination of votes for other maps irrespective of how many times it has just been on while also being the current map. Did you stop to think Metro is only apparently the most popular on the server because it is what 30% of the server votes for when the other 70% fancy something totally different and the votes get spread out between the 7 other options? Of course not. I do not care what the global stats say, it only takes a few Metro whores to vote for it and no other map can get a look in. Did you not even consider a system in which the top voted map gets played then at least the 2nd ranked map and maybe even, god forbid, 3rd ranked map gets played as the subsequent maps? No, of course not. Did you ever stop to think the Metro whores watch for the vote time like hawks while other people are busy trying to have a good time and play and do not even get a chance to vote because they missed it? Of course not, it's just Metro is what everyone wants!! A small conquest version of Metro with the biggest choke points of any map in the entire game, AFK or be part of the meat grinder for 700 tickets, woo yeah!

If you were so confident about your servers ability to keep it populated and the quality of the players on it are you now telling me that if you deny people their Metro crack for 2 maps the server will somehow empty and never be used again? If so it speaks volumes about the 'community' that you want to culture.

Any system that let's the same map be played over and over and over is trash. It's not Metro, something different at least once, Metro, something different at least once. It's Metro, Metro, Metro.

But what do you care as long as you can farm your points and keep people in the server, you do not. Hence why I will find another server with a half intelligent rotation instead of the one which aims to do nothing but provide a consistent flow of nab Sub Rank 10 players you can stack teams against and farm points to your hearts content.

247 had some good players but it provides a varied, decent and balanced environment in which one can play for a small % of the time. Otherwise it has a map rotation of 2, Bazaar and Metro, the latter being over-played to obnoxious levels.

The best games I have played have been with somewhat balanced teams in the periods where a half decent map rotation runs because even if the teams are stacked, 9 times out of 10 a new map comes on and it either balances or sways the other way. Not while it runs like it does now.

As I said, do you care? Nope. Do I care? Nope, I'll find another server with other priorities than keeping it full with 1 map to farm out points. I'll whine about it as much as I damn well please though, especially when complaints from anyone about Metro being played out over and over is met with "Don't like it, leave" and "We pay for the server and put the time in so screw you" "Server is always full so you wont be missed" Really? That is your casual friendly community server? Yeah, I'll pass thanks.
 
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I really care not for your opine on the subject.

You are not around when the server goes from full to almost empty after Metro runs 4 times in a row and is moving onto the fifth. Where half the server cannot vote something different because it only takes 4 muppets to vote for Metro and it outweighs any other combination of votes for other maps irrespective of how many times it has just been on while also being the current map. Did you stop to think Metro is only apparently the most popular on the server because it is what 30% of the server votes for when the other 70% fancy something totally different and the votes get spread out between the 7 other options? Of course not. I do not care what the global stats say, it only takes a few Metro whores to vote for it and no other map can get a look in. Did you not even consider a system in which the top voted map gets played then at least the 2nd ranked map and maybe even, god forbid, 3rd ranked map gets played as the subsequent maps? No, of course not. If you were so confident about your servers ability to keep it populated and the quality of the players on it are you now telling me that if you deny people their Metro crack for 2 maps the server will somehow empty and never be used again? If so it speaks volumes about the 'community' that you want to culture.

Any system that let's the same map be played over and over and over is trash. It's not Metro, something different at least once, Metro, something different at least once. It's Metro, Metro, Metro.

But what do you care as long as you can farm your points and keep people in the server, you do not. Hence why I will find another server with a half intelligent rotation instead of the one which aims to do nothing but provide a consistent flow of nab Sub Rank 10 players you can stack teams against and farm points to your hearts content.

247 had some good players but it provides a varied, decent and balanced environment in which one can play for a small % of the time. Otherwise it has a map rotation of 2, Bazaar and Metro, the latter being over-played to obnoxious levels.

The best games I have played have been with somewhat balanced teams in the periods where a half decent map rotation runs because even if the teams are stacked, 9 times out of 10 a new map comes on and it either balances or sways the other way. Not while it runs like it does now.

As I said, do you care? Nope. Do I care? Nope, I'll find another server with other priorities than keeping it full with 1 map to farm out points. I'll whine about it as much as I damn well please though, especially when complaints from anyone about Metro being played out over and over is met with "Don't like it, leave" and "We pay for the server and put the time in so screw you" "Server is always full so you wont be missed" Really? That is your casual friendly community server? Yeah, I'll pass thanks.

i do care, and i'm happy to feed it back to the guys, the way you were making you point was not working and you kept hammering it. "simply saying all you do is rent a server" is stupid we plough hours and hours into cheat prevention and other plugins, not to mention the whole starting the server every morning (mainly done by matt, but supported by others)
It's not the way to complain about something you get for free, but we invest in. You're hard pushed to find a good server and that's why im happy to be apart of cq247, loads of mods, hammering down on hackers and cheats and creating a good place to play. i'm happy to feed you're comments back in thread and will do so now, regardless if you play on the server again.
 
Jimlad you never used to be like this, had my upmost respect!

But ever since you've become a 247 admin anything bad said about the server in anyway is met with hostility.

Why?

Me though I haven't played Battlefield 3 in ages now and I'm all the better for it :cool:

sorry neil, i know we go way back, i guess i'm passionate about it and defend things invest in and know we have a admin team that does listen to "suggestions and comments" in the forum, i just get narked off with the haters and moaners who jazz it off in here instead of coming on the forum and saying "hey what you do with so and so does not work"

so sorry if i have upset anyone, not my intention. i defend ocuk forums in the same vain in other places.
 
The popularity of the server is it's downfall because it masks what is terrible about it.

Does not matter if 24 people leave because Metro is on again because people join instantly, play for maybe a fraction of the round and vote it in again. More people get sick, leave, more join, vote it in again etc etc etc

But for those of us who stuck through it hoping to see a different map we get sick and people are vocal about what makes them sick. It's met with "We have a voting system so shutup or leave" with sheer ignorance to how the system 'works' and it's massive pitfall of allowing currently played maps to be valid votes and winning from the votes of those who have only played it once rather than 3 times.

It's not a rare occurrence, back to back metro happens every time I play and I always quit when it happens. Does not matter the only time variance in maps is seen when you are all on TS/Skype or whatever and coordinate votes when for the rest of the time without coordinated map voting Metro wins out time and time again.
 
The popularity of the server is it's downfall because it masks what is terrible about it.

Does not matter if 24 people leave because Metro is on again because people join instantly, play for maybe a fraction of the round and vote it in again. More people get sick, leave, more join, vote it in again etc etc etc

But for those of us who stuck through it hoping to see a different map we get sick and people are vocal about what makes them sick. It's met with "We have a voting system so shutup or leave" with sheer ignorance to how the system 'works' and it's massive pitfall of allowing currently played maps to be valid votes and winning from the votes of those who have only played it once rather than 3 times.

It's not a rare occurrence, back to back metro happens every time I play and I always quit when it happens. Does not matter the only time variance in maps is seen when you are all on TS/Skype or whatever and coordinate votes when for the rest of the time without coordinated map voting Metro wins out time and time again.

sin you see it all from you're eyes? maybe others really really really like metro? its the number 1 map? after you left Caspian boarder got voted in, it sorts itself out in the end, always has and always will, i will ask matt about pluggins and look at the stats perhaps we could put something in place to stop a map being played more than 2 or 3 times in a row. It's the way you do things and approach getting changes that gets changes done mate, moaning
on chat when we just kicked a couple of (in DG's words) lows for spamming and trolling does not help and starts as you saw everyone else going off on one.
 
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sin you see it all from you're eyes? maybe others really really really like metro? its the number 1 map?

From my view I quite often see regulars (including 247 members) whinging if it's a metro-fest, I don't think the people who contribute and make the server what it is really want to play metro quite this much, which is a bit of a disservice, it feels like it's passing newbies voting metro in on the whole.

It's the AV argument all over again against a minority voting for something the majority don't want :p

I really can't stand a lack of variety, and I'm certain the majority of people don't want to play the same map over and over, but with the voting system as it is, everyone else can be split on the map they want, but they don't want metro, all it takes is a couple/few people who do want metro and it'll win.

Not very representative really, I think you need to look deeper than the fact it comes up a lot so it must be what everyone wants.

I don't want to seem like I'm whining as I will generally just leave if something isn't to my liking, although it's a shame if I feel like I have to, as it's my favourite server, but I do think there are things being overlooked and improvements to be made.
 
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Lol, here we go again. Quit wasting your time on Sin, hes not worth it Jim. Sin please never come back. Problem solved. Onwards and upwards.
 
Is it cool for me to play on this server when I build my PC? I'm a serious player, don't use glitches and don't camp or base rape. I do occasionally run around in circles shouting Leeroy Jenkins but that's only because eI missed my medication.
 
But for those of us who stuck through it hoping to see a different map we get sick and people are vocal about what makes them sick.

As another 24/7 admin I agree the variety would be nice, but I've just read over the chatlogs and the way you were going off about it in server wasn't right. We have a forum for talking about server issues and we've always told people not to continually moan about maps/getting killed/other players in game. Jim really wasn't joking that people cheered (non-admin or 24/7 people!) when you said you were leaving and when you're moaning that much you should know that you're doing it wrong.


Is it cool for me to play on this server when I build my PC? I'm a serious player, don't use glitches and don't camp or base rape. I do occasionally run around in circles shouting Leeroy Jenkins but that's only because eI missed my medication.

On the 24/7 server? Sure, it's a public server and anyone is welcome as long as they follow the rules!
 
I love the 247 and the people that play on it - in fact, it's probably the only place I play BF3 due to the familiar players, decent administration and use of a game mode I enjoy. I would even rather queue a few minutes to play there than go and find another server.

But I have to agree with Sin (in this thread, Im unaware of any in game comments) when it comes to the map voting system; playing Metro three times in a row is no fun whatsoever. Especially when you are playing against a stacked Russian team, all armed with M320s, who have taken Ticket Hall and have no desire to move any further but would rather sit out the rest of the 600 tickets spamming the escalators...

The game has a wealth of excellent maps which just dont get a look in because it only takes a few Metro lovers to keep voting it on. It doesn't take much to form a majority, even when other people are voting different maps. Surely the vote can be changed so that you cant vote the same map as the one you are currently playing, at the very least?

Still love the server, and even appreicate being able to vote maps occasionally, but sometimes I think a fixed rotation would be better at keeping the experience fresh.
 
Make it a 2 round vote system. All maps available in the first round, top 3 maps go through to the second round. if Metro gets voted in after that then so be it. I prefer the RO2 system where it appears you can change your vote once it is clear which maps others are voting for, mind you in RO2 it doesn't really matter anyway.
 
I suggest that everyone one that isnt happy about the way we run things on cq247 just picks up his rifle and go shoot somewhere else.

We aint forcing anyone to play on our server.

We put ****loads of our time and money into this server ( recently a little less time because people are a bit burned out with this game and playing other stuff untill DLC).

We have an active team of admins that 90% of the time do a good job keeping the server a normal place. We do not need Moaners like you Chase telling us wtf is wrong with our server.

We have a mapvote system. It works how it works. Don't like it? Go search for another server on battlelog.
If half the people in the server even voted every map the outcomes would be diff, and sometimes u will end up with metro 2 or 3 rounds. Deal with it, go get yourself a coffee, have a fap who gives. Not like u cant do something else for 1 round.

What u don't do is go and moan on OCUK forums about how we are the devil and how this is going to be our downfall. Grow up will you? Make a account on our forums and tell us what your problem is. That's what it's there for.

We worked hard to get where we are. Don't like it go and find another place.

God I love a early morning angerpost. Time for coffee
 
I suggest that everyone one that isnt happy about the way we run things on cq247 just picks up his rifle and go shoot somewhere else.

We aint forcing anyone to play on our server.

bla bla bla

:rolleyes:

Nuff said.

Votes pop up in chat for half a second before being spammed out. Most people who hate Metro probably end up inadvertently voting for it if they even saw the vote call at all. But yeah, it's an exceptionally run server with not a single flaw!

As for 'your' forums, never seen them, never seen a link to them, do not have the inclination to make an account there.

And drop the age old time and money argument. It's weak and boring. Playing the game is not time investment and money? yeah, well let's say I reserve the right to be highly sceptical about your monetary investment in a game server.
 
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Nuff said.

Votes pop up in chat for half a second before being spammed out. Most people who hate Metro probably end up inadvertently voting for it if they even saw the vote call at all. But yeah, it's an exceptionally run server with not a single flaw!

As for 'your' forums, never seen them, never seen a link to them, do not have the inclination to make an account there.

And drop the age old time and money argument. It's weak and boring. Playing the game is not time investment and money? yeah, well let's say I reserve the right to be highly sceptical about your monetary investment in a game server.

well you have no idea do you, that's clear. you're bridges are burnt. It takes plenty of time dealing with cheaters, glitches and moaners. The money side is clear, matt is transparent with the funding, again its all displayed on the forums (that you did not know about, even though you have played over a week of your life on the server) renting the server, the plugins, the addons, TS and for a few months is was paid for by Matt and if the donations stopped it would continue to be, they are donations
 
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I love the 247 and the people that play on it - in fact, it's probably the only place I play BF3 due to the familiar players, decent administration and use of a game mode I enjoy. I would even rather queue a few minutes to play there than go and find another server.

But I have to agree with Sin (in this thread, Im unaware of any in game comments) when it comes to the map voting system; playing Metro three times in a row is no fun whatsoever. Especially when you are playing against a stacked Russian team, all armed with M320s, who have taken Ticket Hall and have no desire to move any further but would rather sit out the rest of the 600 tickets spamming the escalators...

The game has a wealth of excellent maps which just dont get a look in because it only takes a few Metro lovers to keep voting it on. It doesn't take much to form a majority, even when other people are voting different maps. Surely the vote can be changed so that you cant vote the same map as the one you are currently playing, at the very least?

Still love the server, and even appreicate being able to vote maps occasionally, but sometimes I think a fixed rotation would be better at keeping the experience fresh.

I did try changing things up a bit recently with the map vote but the regulars all complained. I took it back to stock methods. Thats two rounds of conquest, but then i excluded the current map from the vote.

I just started a poll on our website to discuss changing the way we work it now. I'm always willing to change things up and try and improve if thats what people want.

Pop onto our forum and share you thought and vote in the poll. This goes for anyone who has an opinion. Please no 'Sin' moments though, not interested in that sort of behaviour. Cheers.

Please register/login and vote if you have an opinion on this as it will help me decide whats best.

http://cq247.co.uk/forum/m/4204738/viewthread/3208431-map-vote/page/1
 
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m320 :p

metro is the best map in bf3 !


24/7 guys do a lot of work to keep it busy and unless you know how to keep servers busy it would be empty . so they doing something right.

quite a few are playing other games at mo waiting for new dlc if it annoys you so much id have a break play something else
 
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