Parts turn up, install as instructed. BIG PROBLEMS

CorrodedTemplar

CorrodedTemplar

CorrodedTemplar

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HALP.

Ok, parts turned up today (late actually, around 2pm), me and a friend set to work and follow the instructions to set everything up.

We turn on the machine, it makes one audible beep, went to Boot and went to install windows 7 from disk.

Blue screen - Driver_irql_not_less_or_equal

Restart as prompted on screen.

On restart "Bootmgr is missing, ctrl alt del to restart"

Do so, repeats etc.

Try my old HDD in it, on boot, one audible beep. No boot screen, machine restarts. Wash rinse repeat.

Tried removing ram, swapping ports, and tried 1 stick at a time. Same errors.

Is this a dodgy PSU and has it blown everything up on first boot?

:S

Specs:

AMD athlon 2 x4 965 BE
MSI 880 GMA E35
Powercolor HD6870 gpu
OCZ 650w zs PSU
2x mushkin 2gb ddr3 1333 ram
Seagate barracude 7200rpm 500gb sata 3 hdd
Sony 24x dvdrw dvdram optical drive.
 
I assume the hard drive has a original install of Windows 7?

Have you tried doing a fresh install.

Edit: Try a CMOS reset, see if you get a proper boot.
 
CMOS reset also download ultimatebootcd or a similar boot disk. It's full of diagnostic tools to test the RAM and HDD.

Sounds like RAM to me. Once you have the bootdisk you can use Memtest to see if it's the culprit.

Bootmgr is probably because you didnt format the HDD and it's trying to boot the old windows install which wasnt done with that mobo
 
I always do a fresh install when changing systems, stop some of the issues like your getting.
 
honosuseri said:
CMOS reset also download ultimatebootcd or a similar boot disk. It's full of diagnostic tools to test the RAM and HDD.

Sounds like RAM to me. Once you have the bootdisk you can use Memtest to see if it's the culprit.

Bootmgr is probably because you didnt format the HDD and it's trying to boot the old windows install which wasnt done with that mobo
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Bootmgr is on new HDD that was clean, no option to format.

will try ultimatebootcd.
 
Again CMOS reset, can you get into the BIOS?

You need to set the DVD drive to 1st in the boot order. Windows 7 setup will give you the option to format. SOunds like its going straight to the HDD but that BSOD still needs to be sorted.
 
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I don't mean to sound nasty but you are not the easiest person to help. You dismissed my advice about going intel instead of AMD and I have told you how to get the diagnostics tools to test your kit. I asked you to run a memtest. We need to know the system is stable before you try and install the OS. The BSOD you refer to I think has something to do with the ntfs filesystem. SO either it was corrupted during install or maybe there is an issue with the HDD.

You need to be methodical and give us more information about what you are doing. Start with the memtest (one stick at a time) see what that says and post back to us. If you are lucky it's faulty, you shouldn't have bought 1333mhz RAM especially as you want to OC the AMD 965BE
 
Dude, no offence but as far as the intel thing went I explained myself reasonably and came to a suitable decision that involved me going down the AMD route.
I far from dismissed your Intel argument, I read through your suggested system, looked at my budget and couldn't make it work for me.
I thought that was fairly glaringly obvious.

I've got the diagnostic kit, but cannot for the life of me find the button to enter boot manager to choose to boot from the damned USB drive (no spare cd's right now)

I managed to do a mem test and I have 1 faulty ram stick. The computer SEEMS to boot up fine without one of the sticks.

New problem, which is EXTREMELY odd.

I have used the installation disk for the graphics card, and tried downloading the driver online.

My Powercolor HD 6870 swears blind to me that it is a HD 4250. Device manager backs it up.

There's no freaking way I just paid that much money for a 4250, i know for sure it's a 6870.

And no, i'm not the easiest guy to help, because I have a full frontal lobe and the ability to think for myself. That, and i'm a stubborn Welsh git.
 
CorrodedTemplar said:
Dude, no offence but as far as the intel thing went I explained myself reasonably and came to a suitable decision that involved me going down the AMD route.
I far from dismissed your Intel argument, I read through your suggested system, looked at my budget and couldn't make it work for me.
I thought that was fairly glaringly obvious.

I've got the diagnostic kit, but cannot for the life of me find the button to enter boot manager to choose to boot from the damned USB drive (no spare cd's right now)

I managed to do a mem test and I have 1 faulty ram stick. The computer SEEMS to boot up fine without one of the sticks.

New problem, which is EXTREMELY odd.

I have used the installation disk for the graphics card, and tried downloading the driver online.

My Powercolor HD 6870 swears blind to me that it is a HD 4250. Device manager backs it up.

There's no freaking way I just paid that much money for a 4250, i know for sure it's a 6870.

And no, i'm not the easiest guy to help, because I have a full frontal lobe and the ability to think for myself. That, and i'm a stubborn Welsh git.
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Your mobo has onboard GFX, so thats most likely account for the 4250. You need to check you have you monitor plugged into the GFX card ( easy mistake to make :) and if you can disable the onboard GFX then its worth a try.

The BSODS could be due to not having correct timings and voltage set in the BIOS for your memory.

Im not to hot on AMD systems so it could be something else :(

Its easy to check that your systems using the 6870 tho by running a few games benchies :)
 
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For some reason my VGA screen doesn't recognise the port on the graphics card.

I'm starting to get the horrible feeling that my power supply has fried half the components. But I smell nothing wrong and everything seems to be working. :S

OK, the BIOS is set to use the PCI-E slot graphics over the integrated graphics.

Yet whenever the pc gets to desktop the device manager tells me its the 4250.

Is there a way to permanently disable the onboard graphics so it has no choice but to use the gpu.

(btw the gpu fan is running, so I presume it's working)
 
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CorrodedTemplar said:
For some reason my VGA screen doesn't recognise the port on the graphics card.

I'm starting to get the horrible feeling that my power supply has fried half the components. But I smell nothing wrong and everything seems to be working. :S

OK, the BIOS is set to use the PCI-E slot graphics over the integrated graphics.

Yet whenever the pc gets to desktop the device manager tells me its the 4250.

Is there a way to permanently disable the onboard graphics so it has no choice but to use the gpu.

(btw the gpu fan is running, so I presume it's working)
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Have you plugged the extra power connectors into the GPU? and the aux power to the mobo whilst we are on the topic of power connectors? The GPU will get a few watts through the PCI-Express slot but not enough to work properly without the extra power from the PSU.

The 4250 is indeed the onboard GPU, I have the same on my AM3 mobo. There should be an option to disable it completely in the BIOS, there is on my mobo but I can't speak for every mobo BIOS there is. You need to look through all the pages and sub sections and get acquainted with the BIOS.

If the RAM is faulty I suggest you get a refund and buy some 1600mhz RAM. This will make life easier overclocking the CPU, it is better kit and will be more useful to own in the future. I have a black edtion too, to OC you can just bump the multiplier up but eventually by doing this the CPU doesn't "idle" anymore it will run at fullspeed and be drawing more power the whole time it's on. Push it too far and it wont be stable at all.

With 1600mhz RAM you can up the FSB and use a lower multiplier so the CPU will throttle it's speed down and consume less power when it's not required to run flat out. This keeps the CPU cooler, costs you less in electric and you still get the extra power when you need it most :)

As an example my 555BE is 217 (CPU FSB) x 18.5 (multiplier) = 4.01Ghz. It actually idles at 800mhz drawing 30W and will adjust itself up to the full 4Ghz when needed drawing 83W. My RAM is capable of 1600mhz but at that OC it is technically underclocked at 1446mhz

P.S AMD was the wrong choice, many of my fellow forum members would agree. You have this now so I'll do my best to help you get the most from it
 
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