Unemployed bussed in to steward jubilee, unpaid and asked to sleep rough

otherwise total slackers

Don't think so. Volunteering shows some initiative (I'm fairly sure they weren't forced in that sense). The way they were treated though is pretty unacceptable and would have been unable to quit without repercussions.
 
Yes it is. Do you know anyone who is being forced to do this? I do.




What, you disagree with paying people to work?

I'm very wary about forcing people to work for their benefits. In principle it's sound, but in practice I worry about it being poorly implemented and unemployed being exploited.

I don't know anyone being forced to do volunteer work, and neither do you. You might think you do, or you might know someone who thinks they are.
 
start a new thread??

Been done - I think it's best to keep discussion of this particular issue in that new thread... I'm sure the mods would get their big sticks out if we didn't, because we're dragging this thread (which should be a positive cheerful one) off topic.
 
I am not too sure about if this was forced or voluntary, it's not clear.
What I would say is that regardless of if they are forced or not, nobody should be treated like that. And I disagree what the government is doing with this work experience program, all they are doing is just replacing the workers with cheap slaves.
If you wanted to get them back to work, rewards for them to get back to work should have been used.
 
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Been done - I think it's best to keep discussion of this particular issue in that new thread... I'm sure the mods would get their big sticks out if we didn't, because we're dragging this thread (which should be a positive cheerful one) off topic.

Just slightly :)
 
I am not too sure about if this was forced or voluntary, it's not clear.
The Guardian article said they were volunteers.
What I would say is that regardless of if they are forced or not, nobody should be treated like that.
Indeed - if it's true, nobody deserves to be treated like that - not unless it was made clear before you volunteered. Even then if it's through a JSA scheme I don't think it's appropriate.
 
I have been shown the guidance notes in the official DWP guide on the scheme.

Before the changes? After the changes? It's voluntary. You don't need to do it, you can opt out, there are no sanctions for doing so.

Even the Guardian who like to spread discord about it have said as much.
 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/jun/05/call-inquiry-jobseekers-jubilee-stewards

Another victory for the government's wealth creation, sorry work experience programme. I wonder how much worthwhile experience the unpaid "volunteers" got out of the weekend, are sleeping rough and standing in the rain skills valued by employers these days? It certainly wasn't the case of the company involved, Close Protection UK, cutting costs - after all, the uniforms which the stewards got changed into in public cost £100 each.

The Government will probably do away with them like they did with Princess Diana and once their use has expired they will be thrown into the Thames carrying a heavy concrete block.
 
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