'Spec Me' A New ISP (small independent company please)

spudbynight said:
Their support is excellent for a start. Also, the speed you sync at is determined by your line not your ISP. The speed you get is based on lots of other factors. Be get some of the best consistent transfer speeds on their network as well as not engaging in any traffic shaping.
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And yet when I said it didn't matter who the ISP was you implied I was wrong earlier.....

spudbynight said:
ISP 1 might sync at 16Mbps and give you 15Mbps at peak times. ISP2 might only give you 4 or 5 at peak times.
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...but now you are saying it's more down to physical factors like your phoneline, contradiction there bud. Well that phoneline will be the same whomever I use so my original point wasn't that inaccurate.

spudbynight said:
Small ISPs are more likely to fold when chased by rights agencies as well. If you want to use torrent sites etc you are probably more likely to get **** at a small ISP.
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Small ISPs don't tend to get chased by the agencies because the effort takes more than the small number of customers you'll affect. That's why this High Court order only affects the big 6 companies, it has the biggest impact and sets a bigger example.
 
Haha, estebanrey you are quite a contrary chap and always seem to pick arguments with anyone. Keep it up, it's entertaining :D

And Be* fo life!
 
estebanrey said:
And yet when I said it didn't matter who the ISP was you implied I was wrong earlier.....



...but now you are saying it's more down to physical factors like your phoneline, contradiction there bud. Well that phoneline will be the same whomever I use so my original point wasn't that inaccurate.



Small ISPs don't tend to get chased by the agencies because the effort takes more than the small number of customers you'll affect. That's why this High Court order only affects the big 6 companies, it has the biggest impact and sets a bigger example.
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Sync speed is determined by your line (and profile), throughput is determined by your ISP.

So theoretically you should sync at the same or very similar speeds regardless of the ISP, but the actual throughput bandwidth you receive can vary greatly.
 
estebanrey said:
TBF, I've asked a simple question and only received 1 actual answer (the first one).
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I care not for that, just commenting on a trend I have noticed.

As others have said, traffic shaping and enforced limits are way worse than an easily counter-able blocking of a site.
 
krooton said:
Haha, estebanrey you are quite a contrary chap and always seem to pick arguments with anyone. Keep it up, it's entertaining :D

And Be* fo life!
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I think this is an accurate response. :)

estebanrey said:
And yet when I said it didn't matter who the ISP was you implied I was wrong earlier.....

...but now you are saying it's more down to physical factors like your phoneline, contradiction there bud. Well that phoneline will be the same whomever I use so my original point wasn't that inaccurate.
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You don't seem to understand how your internet connection works. I haven't made any contradictory points - let me explain.

Your connection is dependent on the line. The speed at which you connect to the exchange will be the same no matter which ISP you use. In fact, no matter which ISP you use it will be BT's equipment between you and the exchange in every case. Some ISPs have availed of LLU - that is Local Loop Unbundling. They are able to install their own equipment in the exchanges. Now the speed you connect to that DSLAM (think of it as a super router) will always be the same as that is dependent on the line you have.

The amount of use that you get from that connection will depend on the ISP. All DSL connections are contended. What you have is a fat pipe that is shared by everyone. If an ISP has for arguments sake 20Mbps shared between 10 users. That means that is everyone is downloading full tilt at the same time the real speed people will get is only going to be 2Mbps. You might connect to your exchange at 20Mbps but then you have to share bandwidth with everyone else.

So, you will connect at the same speed to your exchange with all the ISPs but then you hit a bottleneck. That bottleneck and your real world speed will vary from ISP to ISP.

estebanrey said:
Small ISPs don't tend to get chased by the agencies because the effort takes more than the small number of customers you'll affect. That's why this High Court order only affects the big 6 companies, it has the biggest impact and sets a bigger example.
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The likes of the MPAA and the RIAA send out countless infringement requests all around the world. The smaller ISPs will roll over for them and let them scratch their bellies without a moment's hesitation. They don't have the resources to fight things.

Check out this link to compare real world results from ISPs.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/isp/compare.html
 
But an ISP can cap the speed of your line very easily? The potential connection speed of your connection can be, and often is different to the speed your ISP gives you. That's before you even look at usage allowances, peak time throttling, unlimited* access and how much you pay for which service. All ISP's are NOT the same.

*speeds may vary depending on how draconian our policies are.
 
Mat said:
I use ADSL24.co.uk
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I was with these guys years ago, they were fantactic and I think a guy called James used to be spot on with support, looking at changing to their home 5 package, are they still as good with support and quality?

Thanks

Mart
 
I would stay with BE there....it took me 5min to find web page that works as proxy to get to site without issue....

Edit - But if worried the ADSL24.co.uk looks good....
 
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