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Nexus18 Why does work get in the way? I can't post as much as I would like to and add to the wall of text!
Haha not to worry, beauty of internet forums that, take as long as you need to reply, no rush
Once you start Rooting you will always be tinkering with the phone, its akin to fine tuning a car and you can pretty much add and remove what you like to the phone and tailor it to your needs...that's the beauty of Android! If I had abit of time on my hands I would root but as it stands work is pretty much manic at the moment and I don't have time to root and mess around with my phone as much as I would like to so I have to just go with what HTC have given me on the One S, which to be fair is pretty damn good as it is!
Yeah it definitely is addictive! Was always flashing new themes, kernels, ROMs etc. on my spica
But I got fed up with there always being some annoying niggle in the end with every custom ROM and having to mess around with settings, try new kernels etc. much like all the posts you see in the GS 2 thread etc. battery drain, weak signal etc. and so that was one of the main things that I took into consideration when getting my next phone and partly why I went with the one S in the end. Wanted good software for UI and features and hassle free etc. and sense V4 on the S has for me so far been pretty much that
In regards to battery life I've seen quite a few reports (yours and mrk) and others on XDA and for some reason Pure ICS stock doesn't seem to perform as well as say those running Sense and Touchwiz. I'm only speaking out of experience but when I had the S2 and now (One S & G3) all of these phones outperformed the Galaxy Nexus and HOX by a country mile. Granted the HOX is running Sense but I don't think HTC when they first released the HOX had optimised the HOX and subsequent firmware updates my have changed it but I can't help to think that Tegra 3 had something to do with the poor battery life.
Hmmm should have worded my post a bit better
By stock ICS I actually mean ROMs like cyagonen mod etc. just based on stock ICS but with tweaks and more features
On previous HTC phones with older sense versions, it was very much a battery killer iirc especially with the desire and stock android ROM (with tweaks) made it better.
Touchwiz is better than sense on that front from what I can gather, it seems to be better optimized for speed/smoothness and battery life (not by a huge amount though as HTC have worked wonders with sense on that front as well now but it still edges it overall).
Yeah the reason for the poor battery life on the X is tegra and the screen also sucks a lot of power when higher than 40% and just simply HTC haven't optimized sense properly to work with tegra/quad etc. from what I can gather. Maybe it will improve with more updates and custom ROMs.
With the "new" HTC One S doing the rounds (S3) chip I'd like to see a battery showdown between the old HOS and new one. It would make for an interesting comparison
Indeed!
And possibly a 720P screen, not a good combination for battery life lol.
Like you Google phones were always first on my list purely for the software side of things but I like the extras that HTC and Samsung have been adding to their skins and even they're learning not to bloat their respective skins as much, yes fragmentation is a factor and will always be to some extent but I'm actually quite content stick with a certain revision of Android until the all the bugs on the latest and greatest version are ironed out. I guess patience is a virtue but unless the new Nexus phone(s) is quite incredible I might actually sit this one out this time around and stick to whatever phone I have in November. That's my intention anyway but who knows what may happen?
That is the only problem with android in my eyes! Fragmentation! Google really need to be more strict with the companies and simply say something along the lines of "if you can't keep your devices up to date with the latest versions of android and not buggy versions then you can't use android on your devices, simple as!" The phone companies would have no other choice but to do their best and keep to it as they loose out on the privilege of having android on their devices, they loose A LOT of money as there really is no other alternative for the company to fall back on, just windows and standard phones unless they create their own software.
You're right the custom skins always add / implement something better than stock Android. There's people who swear by the pure Google experience but there's others who don't. It's different strokes for different folks I suppose
Yup, same goes for sense, touchwiz etc. Back when the desire was top dog, the majority hated stock android and wouldn't use anything apart from sense lol, now it is mainly for ICS and touchwiz and sense split half and half.
Originally I was stock android all the way up till sense V4.
For a "mid range" phone - a tag that I don't agree with at all it's extremely fast and a highly competent phone, unless Devs start taking advantage of Quad core chips - which will be mostly for gaming I see no advantage of Quad core over the S4 chip.
Completely agree! Apart from the screen and limited internal storage, it is easily up there with the GS 3 and X.
Yeah, for a mobile device, there really is no point of quad core (in theory, should be better battery life), even the majority of desktop PC's have no use for a quad core CPU, only areas where you actually notice the benefit of having quad over dual is in like 4 games, crysis, BF 3, metro 2033 and BC 2 along with encoding and photoshop work etc.
Dual is still more than enough for the majority of games, media centre for blu rays, browsing, word document use, pdf files etc.
And will be very much the same with mobiles as well but as you said, games will/may benefit from it, however, it won't be for a while yet I reckon.
Smart Stay is a superb feature - Basically the S3 detects whether the user is looking at the screen via the front camera and will keep it on, however should the user avert his / her gaze from the phone for a period of time, the S3 assumes that they're no longer looking at the phone and the screen times out. It's a very handy feature, i've lost count the amount of times I've had to touch the screen to keep it from timing out when reading something, it does become annoying!
AH!
I just call that eye tracking lol
Yeah that is a pretty useful feature, although does it not kill battery life? As surely the front camera being on and constantly focusing on your eyes/face won't be good for the battery?
Never know, maybe google will implement it in ICS and therefore every other phone will get it
Re the 3 dot feature I guess I got used to the icons on the Galaxy Nexus taking up screen real estate that I've kind of carried that mentally across to the One S, but I totally understand where you and others are coming from!
I would have loved for the S to have had on screen buttons like the GN. Although I do like the touch sensitive buttons on the one series mobiles a lot, adds some character to the front.
Scouring all the usual Tech sites there's no word of HTC releasing something around the launch of the iphone 5. HTC have massive worries with the latest lawsuit spat with Apple, the ITC Judge that's presiding in the case stated that HTC couldn't use the Patents that Google acquired recently and are deep trouble. With the lawsuit and drop in sales and shares HTC could be in trouble, I genuinely hope not because they were one of the first too embrace Android and were seen as innovators in the mobile world.
Likewise!
Apple are just being absolute xxxxx!
Samsung on the other hand....well I wouldn't be surprised if they released a special edition of the S3 around the launch of the iphone 5!
They will just be releasing the note 2 probably
So not really a direct competitor due to the size, but with Samsung and the way they always taunt at apple in their ads, you never know!
I'll post some screens on the S3 battery life Mate, I have been using the phone rather sparingly.
Thanks
Look forward to seeing some more shots with proper info etc.
Your experience with the Spica was unfortunate as it wasn't a Galaxy series phone Samsung held back on all the bells and whistles, I recall Motorola doing the same with the Milestone when it was first released. I don't know why phone companies fail to enable features that are present in a phone, it's most annoying to the consumer! Like you said if it wasn't for the Dev community a fair few of these devices would be dead in the water!
Yeah, the phone was utter trash on stock but my god the difference when we rooted and flashed custom ROMs which had multi-touch etc. was unbelievable! And this developer still has a lot of work to do for 3D drivers etc. so I am expecting good speed and smoothness (for a pretty low end device
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The camera on it was very good to! Although only when in very bright conditions, some shots just looked excellent!
Glad to see that HTC are learning from their mistakes eh? (Sarcasm there) Style of substance won't win them any fans, they need to stick to basics and release quality phones that actually last through a days use and not look good. What use is a decent looking phone that dies within 8-10 hours use?
Yeah, hopefully they will realise there mistakes with this years phones and step it up next year otherwise I really do fear for them!
I beg to differ about the HOX and HOS camera because when I had both phones I conducted a mini picture comparison and every single picture under various conditions, the HOS produced better pictures. I may have had a defective HOX which could have affected the camera test...who knows....
Wow really!
Well that is good news to my ears then!
Hope you didn't have a faulty camera as it makes me even more pleased with the S then!!!!
How does the camera on the S compare to the GS 3 for overall quality of photos. More grainy, sharper, more noise etc.?
I imagine that the GS 3 will be better overall as samsung are known for their cameras in there phones i.e. GS and GS 2 but is there a huge difference in your opinion?
You're right! The Sense camera is amazing, jam packed with features that other manufacturers are put to shame with. It's a complete joy to use the camera on the HOS, moving across to the S3 the camera is fiddly and the interface is cluttered and somewhat "clumsy" compared to the Sense camera. HTC definitely did a good job there!
They sure did
They have really made it fun to use the camera and most of the effects rather than just oh that looks nice, take a photo and be done with it
That's some horror story there re your Brother's hard drive...Yodel suck big time! How on earth are they still in business I just don't know...whenever I order something online, my first thought is to check who it's being delivered by and if its Yodel...I bail...and order from elsewhere even if it means paying extra. At least I know that the item I've ordered will arrive!
Yeah, they are a complete joke and it is truly amazing that they are still in business! No idea why companies would even use them!!!!
As for your point, no it doesn't seem to effect battery life. Samsung have done an awesome job optimising battery life on the S3, infact I left it on overnight, something that I never usually do and in standby over 9 hours the phone only dropped 1%!!
