Father beats man to death for molesting child; probably won't be arrested

Telescopi said:
Headline is misleading, he hit him over the head a few times and he died - it happens - the force used was reasonable and there were plenty of witnesses.

I doubt the result would be much different in the UK.
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Pfft. Take your facts away - GD demands vigilante justice! Forget the courts and just kill them all!


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Another daily mail fail. Hitting someone, who dies as an unexpected consequence /= beating a man to death. The latter implies intent and none was found in this case.
 
grumpysculler said:
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Another daily mail fail. Hitting someone, who dies as an unexpected consequence /= beating a man to death. The latter implies intent and none was found in this case.
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That's still murder in this country unless using reasonable force while acting self defence. Beating someone to death is a technically accurate description of what happened.
 
simulatorman said:
Good to see that a grand jury and not GD will determine if any charges will be filed.
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I think you'll find that a grand jury (made up of texas locals) will likely come to the same conclusion... no we're not charging a guy for beating up a paedo...

It would be somewhat different in the UK AFAIK... as it would be slightly borderline as to whether it would have been reasonable force. Did the paedo attack the father etc.. assuming the guy stopped doing whatever he was doing to the daughter once he was caught then I'm not sure you can necessarily punch him a few times in the UK. Might well have had a few more questions to answer had this been the UK.
 
robgmun said:
Never go full retard mate :rolleyes:
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I'm obviously missing something in the article, I don't see any evidence?

may turn out in a year the father was best mates with Fritzl, and is caught on his young daughter again by his wife (who turns out to be his daughter as well)...
 
[TW]Fox;22129181 said:
Do people really think that was a proportional response?
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To be fair, most people would be in what I'd consider a state of diminished responsibility if they caught someone sexually assaulting their 4 year old daughter. You certainly wouldn't be asking them to step away and come for a cup of tea and a chat to determine why they were doing it.
 
He is, surely, guilty of manslaughter whether in self defence or not. I don't approve of the molester's actions by any means, but nor do I agree that the offender should have been killed! Ridiculous.
 
Wonder what would happen if the alleged perp was white and the father hispanic? Death row me thinks. Fine, if the story is true he got what was coming to him. At least in this country justice almost works both ways.
 
[TW]Fox;22129181 said:
Do people really think that was a proportional response?
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Killing him no, hitting him yes.

Hitting him with an iron bar until he is dead, no, two punches and a tragic and unexpected death, yes.

I'm sure he has very good legal counsel, because he'll need it, but it isn't mob justice or premeditated murder.
 
Sounds a bit off,

Also taking into account (statistically) it's more likely to be her father than a random stranger, in most cases abuse is perpetrated by family members or friends of the family.

Not strangers.
 
Telescopi said:
Headline is misleading, he hit him over the head a few times and he died - it happens - the force used was reasonable and there were plenty of witnesses.

I doubt the result would be much different in the UK.





The police don't decide, he's not a flight risk but it's up to judge and jury to decide what he is guilty of.
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Not at all advocating what the dead guy allegedly did but it is just that, allegedly. The article does not state there were witnesses it states there were other people in the barn, you are making assumptions.

You make further assumptions that hitting someone several times over the head is reasonable force, no it's not. If there were witnesses then reasonable force would have been to restrain the man until police got there. Hitting him over the head several time could never be regarded as reasonable force.

And Kazz is quite right, never take one man at his word, especially with something as serious as this. As for jas72, are you for real?!?! How many times do we read about parents molesting their children? Far too often...
 
Assuming the series of events are true, I don't see an issue with giving a child molester a beating.

If he dies, then too bad, I'd have zero sympathy and I'm sure some people would happily say he deserved it. You can't get much lower.
 
Telescopi said:
I'm sure he has very good legal counsel, because he'll need it, but it isn't mob justice or premeditated murder.
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Unlikely unless he faces further questioning... the local population of this Texas county are fully behind the father... the DA is elected by the local population and fully aware of their views. The grand jury the DA is referring the case to is made up of the local population... I think it would be a fairly reasonable assumption that this case will go no further.
 
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